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    Quote Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI View Post
    I ask you this then: How is Lootmaster, Company Chest access, Vote Kick, or Party Finder any different from a parser in that case? All of those can be just as equally abused.
    You're not wrong that those existing tools can be used to exclude or abuse people but that isn't fair reason to add another one. Want to put out max damage? Don't need a parser to tell me that you need to learn your optimal rotation, use your cooldowns appropriately, deal with mechanics when necessary and dodge. And a parser won't solve any of that, only practice and trial and error will.
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    Last edited by Nightray; 09-07-2015 at 06:20 PM. Reason: "Optimal"

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    Lilli Karani
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightray View Post
    Don't need a parser to tell me that you need to learn your optimal rotation, use your cooldowns appropriately, deal with mechanics when necessary and dodge. And a parser won't solve any of that, only practice and trial and error will.
    What do you think how optimal rotations got figured out? And these are for a trainings dummy.

    For every encounter its needed to make modifications for getting optimum output.

    Both things are not possible without knowing the numbers. For trial and error you need the numbers to be able to compare them.
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    Elyza Arcanas
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    Scholar Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Nightray View Post
    You're not wrong that those existing tools can be used to exclude or abuse people but that isn't fair reason to add another one. Want to put out max damage? Don't need a parser to tell me that you need to learn your optimal rotation, use your cooldowns appropriately, deal with mechanics when necessary and dodge. And a parser won't solve any of that, only practice and trial and error will.
    1) Actually it's REALLY hard to figure out YOUR optimal rotation without a parser. While there usually is an optimal rotation for a given job, you might not be able to pull that one off perfectly, and do a better job with a different rotation that better suits your skill/capabilities/the fight.

    2) WAY too many people DON'T know that they are not performing to their max capability. They think they are OK. And since there are always at least 2 DPS in any group content, it's super easy to put blame on the other(s). These people have no way to know they are doing bad.

    3) NOBODY normal cares about the lacking performance of any of their team members, AS LONG AS the content is getting cleared. Your tank loses agro, but you still manage to kill without dying? Nobody normal will say a word. Your healer dies or lets someone die, but you still clear? Nobody normal will say a word. The DPS is low and the fight takes long, but still gets cleared? Nobody normal will say a word. And those that are not normal will cry no matter if they have a parser or not, they will just attack 2-4 people instead of 1 if the DPS is low. Nothing really changes.

    And as was already said, if your "performance" hinders the progression of the party. Be it because you fail mechanics, because you lose agro, because you can keep up with healing, or because you can't pull your weight as DPS. YOU SHOULD NOT BE is said content till you get better, or get better gear.
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