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    hagare's Avatar
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    Cesan Duff
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    Tonberry
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by melisande View Post
    Like I said, its something that is actually intuitive and simply comes from playing the game istelf, a lot like an instrument, a very linear one at that (like a piano). You can read tablature or sheet music all day long for reference, but when it comes down to it, it's really your own intuition, and musical inclination.
    thank you.
    Now I'm gonna keep playing with my gut. As long as it feels right, facts be damned.
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    Sapphic's Avatar
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    Sapphic Meow
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    Odin
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    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ashkendor View Post
    I don't think anyone's come out and said that a parser is necessary.
    Well in a way they are needed due to console users. Adding an official parser will put both PC and Console users on the same level. For rotation you can, upto a point calculate optimal rotations by adding up the potency. Albeit when you factor in gear optimisation then it changes. Thing is players that underperform have the conseption they are doing fine as they basically get carried through content. A parser would give absolute proof they aren't.

    Also with an official parser, due to discrepencies between the unofficial ones it would be nice to have an accurate comparison.
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    Miranda Madison
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    Twintania
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    You know Layla, I think you and I are the only ones that feel that way. At least of the ones that actually visit the forums.. There are darker days ahead and we're already in dark days as it is.
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    Y'sira Kurai
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    Halicarnassus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twilite View Post
    You know Layla, I think you and I are the only ones that feel that way. At least of the ones that actually visit the forums.. There are darker days ahead and we're already in dark days as it is.
    Things have changed especially since Heavensward. Personally I'm here to have fun especially with friends and I'm not afraid of my DPS numbers although frankly being on a PS4 I don't have access to them. This forum isn't a litmus test for the community. I think it's personally skewed given many casual players just don't visit here.

    I suspect SE knows the score and to be honest I'd be very surprised to see group parsers included in DF content. Losing users to abuse isn't in the long term interest of the game.
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    Shaartis Laggal
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    And do you think the problem are the DPS? And what about the healers and the tanks that have to deal with them? It's so fair having 0 responsibilities while the healer and the tank have to carry that group, DPS making that boss fight so long that the healer is starting to MP starving...
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    Lace Valeria
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    Jenova
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    Honestly, the same discussion continues over at the DPS forums. And just as I said there, we're all quite aware of what can possibly go wrong. Why don't we instead look at what might go right?

    Where would any reasonable, responsible player NOT benefit from a tool that simply would allow players - individually - to know exactly how well they are/aren't performing, and perhaps learn to improve?

    It's late; please go read the "Real Problems with Parsers" topic in the DPS section. Many good points are made there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI View Post
    Where would any reasonable, responsible player NOT benefit from a tool that simply would allow players - individually - to know exactly how well they are/aren't performing, and perhaps learn to improve?
    This! Perfect. Hope you're listening SE.
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    I hate parsers and don't want them. FF14 was voted as most accessible mmo for people with disabilities in 2013 because 14 is for everyone to enjoy, not just the few leets that want everyone to be as "good" as them. If people just embraced tolerance for us lowly casuals or others playing with different circumstances we could all get along. As long as 3rd party software remains against terms of service, i'll report anyone using a parser near me.
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    Charlotte Elise
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    Kujata
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightray View Post
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    Sorry to hurt the feelings of those people with disabilities, but if you're not playing to the level that the content requires, you honestly shouldn't be doing that content at all. If it was solo, sure, but otherwise you're wasting 7 other people's time. Doing poor DPS in a dungeon? I couldn't care less, not even slightly. Do 0 DPS, as long as we get through it I don't care. Come into a PF group of something like an extreme primal and demand to be carried because you're incapable of pushing out the required DPS is selfish and nothing else.
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    Aveira Teleri
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    Odin
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    Archer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Nightray View Post
    I hate parsers and don't want them. FF14 was voted as most accessible mmo for people with disabilities in 2013 because 14 is for everyone to enjoy, not just the few leets that want everyone to be as "good" as them. If people just embraced tolerance for us lowly casuals or others playing with different circumstances we could all get along. As long as 3rd party software remains against terms of service, i'll report anyone using a parser near me.
    "I'm casual" seems like a pretty bad excuse for being terrible at the game. There's nothing that stops a casual player from being good.
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