End of the debate of STR Accessories.

[KeluBehemoth]

Tanking is situational, adaptive and responsive. So is it's gear.

Obviously a fresh tank in low level duties should never be wearing STR accessories. They have neither the mitigation nor utility to deal with it.

A tank facing any target (Boss, Add, Trash) in a group less than 3 should never be wearing VIT accessories. Why? Because AoE DPS is ineffective with fewer than 3 targets and DPS should be using their single target rotations.

On trash pulls, adds, etc (More than 3 targets) VIT gear is advised due to the increased damage the tank will be taking. Allowing more cushion room for the healer to DPS.
Your 100-150 DPS increase will not make up for the 1000+ DPS of a the healer casting AOE.

Obviously STR accessories should not be used in fights where the tank/group is inexperienced. More VIT allows for a greater margin of error on the entire parties part (DPS not dodging, tank busters).

[KeluBehemoth]

There is no cookie cutter set up for the tank. Most of the arguments in these treads are based on "Oh well I meant in low level duty finder" "I meant in Alex Savage".

The bottom line is that neither answer is correct and all answers are correct in the appropriate situation and if you really want to maximize your ability you should always have both VIT and STR accessories as well as stat reset tokens on hand at all times.

Spreading misinformation saying one is better in all cases at all times is harmful to everyone in the game.

[Suhr]

i bet u wasted esoterics on fending accs LMFAO

[sackm]

wrong, there is only 1 correct answer, that being melded accessories.

[KeluBehemoth]

Actually I have a full set of Eso left side and a full set of proto VIT and STR on the right side. Saving for Pentamelds. Regardless of that, how is that even remotely relevant to the discussion Suhr?

[SpookyGhost]

wrong, there is only 1 correct answer, that being melded accessories.

Pentamelds are also situational and can easily be replaced with STR accessories, they're not really an exception. Melded is definitely the safest option between the two and has many merits in progression content, but using a full pentamelded set for everything isn't always the best option. As an example, with full i200 left side, would you wear full pentas on A1S?

[Tyrial]

[I]
On trash pulls, adds, etc (More than 3 targets) VIT gear is advised due to the increased damage the tank will be taking. Allowing more cushion room for the healer to DPS.
Your 100-150 DPS increase will not make up for the 1000+ DPS of a the healer casting AOE.

What world are you living in? Maybe you're only seeing 100-150 DPS as a PLD or a DRK, but if a WAR is only pulling 100-150 more DPS on AoE pulls than single target they should take a look at how they're playing the class. You talk about cookie cutter sets and misinformation, yet here you are spreading it yourself.

Thanks for ending the debate though...

[AnimaS]

i had penta 150's right after i got the crafters to 60 with a hoard of VIT IV's frompre 30... as war I don't see a debate;other tanks dunno ...

yea of course now if you have 200 left side you have enough vitality to ignore that .. now.... still, as soon as a new content comes out wherein the 150 melded causes a far better spread I do that.

[AnimaS]

What world are you living in? Maybe you're only seeing 100-150 DPS as a PLD or a DRK, but if a WAR is only pulling 100-150 more DPS on AoE pulls than single target they should take a look at how they're playing the class. You talk about cookie cutter sets and misinformation, yet here you are spreading it yourself.

Thanks for ending the debate though...

yea uh decimate is incredibly strong , you want to see damage berserk and double decimate that is all targets in the aoe getting 2to 3+k damage per decimate. after i get aggro on a trash pull I want to do THAT.

[SpookyGhost]

What world are you living in? Maybe you're only seeing 100-150 DPS as a PLD or a DRK, but if a WAR is only pulling 100-150 more DPS on AoE pulls than single target they should take a look at how they're playing the class. You talk about cookie cutter sets and misinformation, yet here you are spreading it yourself.

I had this discussion in another topic, but I can tell you what it boils down to:

If the DPS you gain from wearing STR accessories over VIT accessories outweighs the GCDs lost from the healer (if any) then STR is better. The idea, especially for WAR, is that by wearing STR accessories you gain damage from every single enemy hit with Overpower every single GCD - which will add up to a lot of extra damage. There's a lot of caveats to this discussion - outside of I believe Astro (not entirely sure, I just see them casting a massive spell all the time), a healer's AOE DPS rotation doesn't last for very long. As an example, once a SCH puts up DoTs + Bane + Miasma 2 they're just using Broil from then on, whereas I'm nonstop using Overpower, so the minimum I need to be alive for is their opening set of DoTs + Miasma 2, because beyond then the DPS I gain from STR accessories far outweighs their DPS from single target Broil.

It's fun to discuss the merits of STR tanking in trash situations and everything, but honestly your accessory choice doesn't matter all too much in a 4man dungeon. As long as you're surviving stuff, you're fine.