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    Tank Balance

    Nvm.was badly thought out
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    Last edited by Metalwrath; 09-06-2015 at 08:33 PM. Reason: Badly written

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    Why do you hate paladin?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brannigan View Post
    Why do you hate paladin?
    I don't.I been starting to level gladiator and level paladin.I main warrior and have llv 55 Dark knight.I feel those changes would help balance and benefit Paladin.Why do you think i hate paladin based on my suggestions?
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    I have no idea how crit helps in anyway shape or form or why you want it on a defensive oath.

    Sentinel already reduces magic damage and physical as it "Reduces damage taken by 30%." - 40% with trait

    but the icing on the cake for me is WHY WOULD YOU WANT A SHORTER STUN DURATION!!!!?

    So if anything your changes make PLD worse or have little impact.

    War doesn't really need a buff to fell cleave

    and why would you nerf one of the DKs CDs?
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    Last edited by PotatoWafflez; 09-06-2015 at 10:35 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PotatoWafflez View Post
    I have no idea how crit helps in anyway shape or form or why you want it on a defensive oath.

    Sentinel already reduces magic damage and physical as it "Reduces damage taken by 30%."

    but the icing on the cake for me is WHY WOULD YOU WANT A SHORTER STUN DURATION!!!!?

    So if anything your changes make PLD worse or have little impact.

    War doesn't really need a buff to fell cleave

    and why would you nerf one of the DKs CDs?
    Also the shorter stun duration woule be inline with buffing other things.Changed my original post.
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    I wasn't aware that sentinel reduced magical damage aswell as physical.And the warrior thing is a nerf and not a buff.
    I had thought that that sentinel didn't include magical damage.i suggested the dark magic nerf to make Paladin more viable.
    My mistake.I'd assumed from all the complaining on the forums about Paladin against Dark that Paladin didn't have a magic defense cooldown.
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    yes nerf the other tanks and buff only warrior some more.

    Edit: lol nvm these are all nefts xD
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    Last edited by Isius; 09-06-2015 at 10:45 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isius View Post
    yes nerf the other tanks and buff only warrior some more.
    How is that a buff to warrior?What i am saying nerfs the damage of fell cleave.that you can only do the highest potential 500 which you can do from any situation currently into being a certain position.this makes the warrior still strong but more potent as an off tank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Metalwrath View Post
    How is that a buff to warrior?What i am saying nerfs the damage of fell cleave.that you can only do the highest potential 500 which you can do from any situation currently into being a certain position.this makes the warrior still strong but more potent as an off tank.
    Yeah nvm I made a edit in last post. Numbers seemed odd to me so I had to relooked at it, but seriously none of these changes make sense. Yes it would nerf warrior's dmg but that is not SE plan. Warrior is meant to be top dps tank. You are basically making Fell Cleave slightly better potency then Inner Beast but with no benefits that Inner Beast has if a Warrior is MT at the time or even having to tank a target...you know tanking while being a tank. Many warriors wouldn't like this change, since they love dmg. xD And currently tank dps is very important toward endgame, so you are basically making things harder for everyone in alex savage savage worst.

    I think most people on these forums are okay where Warrior is at, but Dark Knight needs to have some skills tweak, and have better physical defenses, while Paladin needs QoL changes on several skills, and enmity, and arguable more dps/magic mitigation. But this is not for us to decide that is for SE to decide.

    Edit: And again yes sorry I assumed you wanted Fell Cleave to be buffed, just read these forums for too long, and after seeing some people wanting to buff the best performing tank more while the other two tanks are behind drives me crazy. Maybe once Drk/Pld are "fixed" then I would accept some warrior buffs/changes.
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    Last edited by Isius; 09-06-2015 at 12:01 PM.

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    You want to kill what little aoe Paladin's have?
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