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    Mapleine's Avatar
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    Elodie Claire
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    Leviathan
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    Sage Lv 100

    Would really like to have real alt support for end game.

    Right now this is probably the only MMO that comes to mind that only allows you to gear up one class at a time. The armory system really needs updating, it's fine to use modern MMO systems with lock outs and point caps but the armory system very much conflicts with that as is.

    I'd really like to be able to earn loot and points by the class. You'd have to take a couple of steps to make sure it isn't abused, like restricting purchases and off-rolls to an extent in gated content but in the end it'd be a huge net gain for those of us who like alts and have little to do.

    There's almost no middle ground content as is, things tend to be extremely easy or extremely hard and that's frustrating but at least allow us to spend some time gearing up alt classes until maybe something can change in that area.

    I just want to say I took a break from halfway through 2.3 all the way until 3.0 that I likely wouldn't have if I had more alt support and middle-ground battle content.
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    Last edited by Mapleine; 08-31-2015 at 09:16 AM.

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    CyrilLucifer's Avatar
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    Holy Emmerololth
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    Mateus
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    White Mage Lv 90
    While I understand your desire, there's one reason why this likely won't happen: Money.

    Let's just say, for ease, that it takes 2 months to fully gear one class. You're paying for two months of subscription. That amount wouldn't change if you could gear another class at the same time, it would still be 2 months.

    But if you follow traditional MMO gating, suddenly you have 4 months of subscription to gear two classes. Logically, this makes a lot more sense for SE to do than to allow you to gear multiple classes at once.
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    Hot Lips
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    Hyperion
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    Conjurer Lv 69
    not sure about that , for me I keep sub active because im happy and enjoying the game. When I feel a game is allowing me to play how i like, and how much I like, I respect them for that.

    the more restrictions they lay down makes me want to leave more then stay that extra 2 months. (not saying im at that stage, just saying its definitely the flip side to the "more money" argument)

    Theres a fine line between gating to drag out content and simply barricading all other progress because they "say so"

    They have not met that balance imo.

    So for players like myself its not going to extend subs, it more then likely will cause ppl to not want to stay.

    Not everyone is ok with excessive restrictions..

    There does need to be more love for alt jobs most definitely.
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    Galgarion's Avatar
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    Famine Cruor
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    Mateus
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    Marauder Lv 70
    What is the point of an alt, though? Your main can do it all single-handedly.
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    Matthias Gendrin
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    Cactuar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galgarion View Post
    What is the point of an alt, though? Your main can do it all single-handedly.
    There are some oddballs among us (myself included) who like to imagine backstories and whatnot for our characters. I know for Isaac, the lore I've got imagined for him makes him incapable of using magic of any kind (to the point where I'd play GLD if it were still a viable tanking spec).

    That, and there's something kind of immersion-ruining about having one character who is The One and Only Black Mage AND The One AND Only White Mage AND The One and Only Azure Dragoon AND The Superest Duperest Paladin Who Ever Paladinned, etc.
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    Last edited by Jpec07; 09-01-2015 at 09:16 AM. Reason: Capitalizing an AND
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    Myrhn's Avatar
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    Myrhn Shirayuki
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    There is a sub that allow u to create 8 characters. Can use that if want an alt.
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    I love the official forums, they tell you to use the search for thread about what you wanted to talk but when you use it they judge for necro a thread.


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    Famine Cruor
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jpec07 View Post
    That, and there's something kind of immersion-ruining about having one character who is The One and Only Black Mage AND The One AND Only White Mage AND The One and Only Azure Dragoon AND The Superest Duperest Paladin Who Ever Paladinned, etc.
    Yeah, I used to worry about that for my little roleplaying sessions. Couldn't figure out a way for it to make sense; then I remembered it's a final fantasy game so the solution is the job crystals. You the Adventurer can be completely inept at magic but you can possess a job soul that isn't. You can even have different personalities for your character depending on the job crystal equipped. For instance, my Dark Knight crystal contains the soul of the great-grandson of the soul in my Paladin crystal. The Paladin can't believe any descendant of his would fall so low, so naturally they hate each other. It's a lot of fun, and a little meta, but it's completely logical and in keeping with established lore.
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    Last edited by Galgarion; 09-01-2015 at 10:38 AM.

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    Drtoxicmedica's Avatar
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    Tatsu Masumi
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    Malboro
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Myrhn View Post
    There is a sub that allow u to create 8 characters. Can use that if want an alt.
    If it allowed you to skip the story aspect of it and just level the character that would be more viable. But to have an actual alt you have to level from 1-60 with no armory bonus as well as complete the tutorials reconfigure UI hotbar layout etc. And all MSQ then gearing said alt to actually get to the point of current end game just to actually have an actual alt. The fact that UI settings and being forced to walk through the entirety of the MSQ from lvl 1 just blows. Being able to transfer UI presets as well as making all MSQ pre 50 optional for secondary characters would be a decent amount of effort required without it being a mind numbing grind. Just my opinion tho
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    Myrhn Shirayuki
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    Hyperion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drtoxicmedica View Post
    If it allowed you to skip the story aspect of it and just level the character that would be more viable. But to have an actual alt you have to level from 1-60 with no armory bonus as well as complete the tutorials reconfigure UI hotbar layout etc. And all MSQ then gearing said alt to actually get to the point of current end game just to actually have an actual alt. The fact that UI settings and being forced to walk through the entirety of the MSQ from lvl 1 just blows. Being able to transfer UI presets as well as making all MSQ pre 50 optional for secondary characters would be a decent amount of effort required without it being a mind numbing grind. Just my opinion tho
    Isnt that what every other game that dont allow to have all classes on one character make you do? That like a clear definition os what an alts is.
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    I love the official forums, they tell you to use the search for thread about what you wanted to talk but when you use it they judge for necro a thread.


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    Sida Bajihri
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    Phoenix
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Most games don't gate (which I have played) don't gate content behind some main quest line. Sure you need to level from level 1 with every character but you can do it in the method you choose.
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    If you say 'pls' because it's shorter than 'please', I say 'no' because it's shorter than 'yes'.

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