The Real Problem with Parsers

[Malevicton]

I'll be honest with you. The Devs keep on saying they don't support parsers, yet they keep on adding DPS check shit. They are the ones who created the monsters and condemned them at the same time.

Well really, the community keeps saying that devs keep on saying that they don't support parsers.

What the devs have actually said that they don't really care and understand their utility. https://youtu.be/3-WXYg-S05U?t=6m6s

[Whiteroom]

Well really, the community keeps saying that devs keep on saying that they don't support parsers.

What the devs have actually said that they don't really care and understand their utility. https://youtu.be/3-WXYg-S05U?t=6m6s

Their lack of implementing them has the same effect though, regardless of their feelings. Things seem to be much better on the japan servers though, maybe thats is why the issue hasn't gotten the attention it needs.

But really, they don't support them, otherwise there wouldn't be the whole "don't ask, don't tell" thing going on. And they would be exempt from the third party rule. Understanding their utility and supporting them are two different things.

[RiceisNice]

Well really, the community keeps saying that devs keep on saying that they don't support parsers.

What the devs have actually said that they don't really care and understand their utility. https://youtu.be/3-WXYg-S05U?t=6m6s

Also the part where they'd said there should be some understanding, responsibility and that we're all adults here. :x

Their lack of implementing them has the same effect though, regardless of their feelings. Things seem to be much better on the japan servers though, maybe thats is why the issue hasn't gotten the attention it needs.

Until we'd get a definite statement on it, we're only grasping at straws on why they don't want to implement somehting like a parser. Hell, it's taken us until 3.05 to get a TP bar of all things because of UI restrictions and trying to keep it in line with PS3 limitations so they wouldn't at an unfair disadvantage.

[Whiteroom]

Also the part where they'd said there should be some understanding, responsibility and that we're all adults here. :x



Until we'd get a definite statement on it, we're only grasping at straws on why they don't want to implement somehting like a parser. Hell, it's taken us until 3.05 to get a TP bar of all things because of UI restrictions and trying to keep it in line with PS3 limitations so they wouldn't at an unfair disadvantage.

Tbh, I don't know a lot about coding. But I've played other games with all of these things on ps3 and graphics were the only thing said to be held back by it. Of course, they could be a much more optimised game, but I really don't buy the restrictions thing for everything. It just seems a go-to excuse to shut people up most of the time.

[TiaHeart]

Hell, it's taken us until 3.05 to get a TP bar

Funfact i took a break at that time and STILL dont have it. I assume u mean seeing others tp in the groupoverlay? Or what? If so I hopefully find it on the customizations ( ps4 ).
Less funny when you shrug and think "yes" is the correct response to "goat me ffs, or do i need to ask?" oO

[RiceisNice]

I lied, it was actually introduced in 3.07.

Funfact i took a break at that time and STILL dont have it. I assume u mean seeing others tp in the groupoverlay? Or what? If so I hopefully find it on the customizations ( ps4 ).
Less funny when you shrug and think "yes" is the correct response to "goat me ffs, or do i need to ask?" oO

It's on your party member overlay, the one that's on the top left and underneath your LB bar by default. You know how you had a third bar next to your mana bar, but it didn't show it for anyone else in your party?

Now they added that third bar to your party.


They had to move the stat bonus chart (where you see STR/DEX/INT/PIE/MND) to a completely different window to make room for the TP bars apparently, and it only shows the bar itself and not exact values.

Tbh, I don't know a lot about coding. But I've played other games with all of these things on ps3 and graphics were the only thing said to be held back by it. Of course, they could be a much more optimised game, but I really don't buy the restrictions thing for everything. It just seems a go-to excuse to shut people up most of the time.

That's what they keep saying when it came to UI restrictions and system load for the lowest common denominator, they had to take some stuff out of the default party UI to reduce system load, as if they're already on the edge of what they can include.

[TiaHeart]

I lied, it was actually introduced in 3.07.
It's on your party member overlay, the one that's on the top left and underneath your LB bar by default. You know how you had a third bar next to your mana bar, but it didn't show it for anyone else in your party?

Now they added that third bar to your party.

Haha thanks for being that detailed and informative, im used to you making solid points, but im not "that" new. I know what it looked like pre patch and figured it would look like that post. It just didnt happen on my screen for real. I had no "automatic" 3rd bar displaying tp. I went and used "hide if not in grp" tick-untick for a refresh, in case anyone experiences similiar behaviour of still not havin the tp bar

Parsers are already made for the game, they are just third party. So the PC has had a Parser for over a year now, Ps4 players don't have that luxury already. That doesn't mean PS4 players can't perform though. I play on Ps4 and I've downed all the content in the game.

It does mean pretty much that. Cuz ps4 only players operate in the dark unless they have a pc parsing friend or literally eat "perfect rotations" on reddit. No clue what your point is besides "im on ps and awesome, please clap now". Ps users arent handed the tools pc masterrace is, thats bull unless u bring arguments (and im convinced ps4 hardware can handle it. If not, my bad and sry)

[Zojha]

Ps users arent handed the tools pc masterrace is, thats bull unless u bring arguments (and im convinced ps4 hardware can handle it. If not, my bad and sry)

Considering the fact that these tools are third party tools, you can probably guess why that is. These tools aren't provided by the producer, they are external programs written by random people. If the PS doesn't allow you to do that, PC masterrace is called that way for a good reason. If it does, you can write a parser for yourself or hope someone else does and download it on the PS. If the PS allows that.

These potential customization limitations are large part of the reason why consoles are still considered inferior to the PC versions. One could likely write a program to extract the game's visual assets, alter them in photoshop (HQ textures for example), then have a program to re-inject it into the game. Is such a thing possible on the PS? I don't know, I don't have one. I'm just saying.