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    Craiger's Avatar
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    Atiqa Craiger
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    Phoenix
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    Pugilist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Alex_Lenderson View Post
    But you end up doing the same dungeons over and over again. A personal parser would let you see how you did and see if you are improving.
    Unless they know that they're way behind, they're probably not gonna bother with it... and even if they do, they probably won't change their rotation/general play enough to make a huge difference.

    If they see 300 DPS now, and improve to 400, they could think they have mastered their job now or something if they don't have any idea what numbers they should be getting. If they suddenly see that some players are doing 1300 DPS on the same fight, they will instantly know that they're way behind and need to change something to improve.

    Some here might think 300 DPS is kind of an extreme case, but I've seen more at 300-400 DPS than people at 800+ DPS.
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    Aiselia's Avatar
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    Shandraya Heavenswind
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    Famfrit
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Craiger View Post
    If they see 300 DPS now, and improve to 400, they could think they have mastered their job now
    And yet on the flip side, if they don't know what numbers they should be getting and are doing 600 when they could be doing 1300 with their gear but they only get people who do 300-400, they will think they're doing great.

    Difference is that if someone's pulling 300-400 when they could be doing 1300 with their gear, it's probably not because they don't know they could do better, but because they don't care.

    Terrible when they could do good is more likely a sign of not caring enough to try.
    Passable when they could do good is more likely that they're just not optimizing rotation and may care... unless they get terrible players a lot that make them look good.

    A party parser is unlikely to help someone doing 300 when their gear allows for 1300.
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    Gorlioliolio's Avatar
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    Shaggy Grant
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    Leviathan
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    If a persons gear allows for 1300 they probably have some 210 pieces and by that point should know their rotation, if they are doing 300 at that point they are either a) trolling b) being a dick, or c) have never given a crap and expect the whole world owes them everything and we should all carry them.

    Should I then be forced to examine them, see their gear is definitely above their dps (but who are we kidding, just being level 60 in 50 gear=more than 500 dps) then watch them for the next couple pulls to see what they are doing, if it's a class I don't have leveled research their rotation and then watch them some more to see what they are doing wrong. At that point be like "heeeeey buddy, so I don't think your doing your rotation right, and umm I think it would be nice for everyone here if you just tried it like this.... k thanks bud, have a great day".

    Or would it be nice to be able to kick someone who is i200+ just by looking at the number beside their name saying "this idiot is pulling less than I can on a 50 bard, gg".

    Why should anyone be forced to deal with these a-holes? You can kick a tank for having terrible agro, a healer for letting people die, but if I can sit on my hands and auto attack for 2/3rd of what this guy is doing I can't say a god damn word because parsers are bad and peoples feelings are more important than wasting 3-7 peoples time.

    Edit: And once again I'm not advocating kicking someone for slightly subpar dps, 600 for a fresh 60 learning their new rotations 800+ for someone being lazy but having some decent gear at 60 don't really bother me, it's the people who are going out of their way to waste peoples time while not being "afk" because they are technically attacking everything.
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    Last edited by Gorlioliolio; 10-04-2015 at 04:19 AM.