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    Aiselia's Avatar
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    Shandraya Heavenswind
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    Famfrit
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by StouterTaru View Post
    You keep talking about being booted for making dungeons take a little longer
    Because of examples like this:
    Quote Originally Posted by hallena View Post
    im not gonna spend 30-35minutes in fractal so im kicking that person.
    People that care that much about speeding through a dungeon as fast as possible don't queue up for DF solo/partial group.
    Quote Originally Posted by hallena View Post
    If you want a jolly cooperation slow run with no pressure, you make a premade

    In your vast experience, how often have you seen someone kicked from a dungeon that wasn't afk, offline, being a jerk, or blamed for a wipe(s)?
    Ask me that again when people can bring up parses without expecting they'll get reported just for mentioning them, so that it can be more accurate to the situation that would result from being able to do that. My experience is also biased in that I normally queue with at least one other DPS with me sometimes (more and more lately) being the second one, so there's no reason to kick for low DPS because it isn't happening.

    And to preempt regarding the example: Yes, I'm aware that one person does not indicate everyone or even a majority, but if one exists, why couldn't others?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gorlioliolio View Post
    You multiply by 4 because there are 4 people
    And if a 24-man raid goes 10 minutes longer, you didn't spend 240 minutes in there.

    you have just been disproven using math
    Really bad math that makes such a bad argument that I'm not even sure if you're trying to be serious. If you get in a run at 9:00 and it takes 30 minutes, four people finish at 9:30. If someone queues for a run at 8:30 and they get in at 9:00 and get kicked at 9:10 then they requeue immediately and get in at 9:40 and then complete their run in 30 minutes, they finish at 10:10. Because the first group didn't want to finish at 9:30.

    Ignoring the potential situation that the group that didn't want to take until 9:30 gets someone worse and takes until 9:30 or later anyways.

    Do you see how ridiculous you start to sound
    Says the person multiplying time spent by number of people. No. In fact, it's really hard for me to even remotely consider I might sound ridiculous compared to what you're trying to pull.

    don't have some tool explicitly stating to them that they are performing X amount worse than other people in the same situation?
    This is why you should have gone back and actually read my posts.

    And like it has been stated by me, and tons of other people, no one is really going to be kicking anyone for pulling 800 when they could be pulling 1200
    And like it has been stated by me and nobody has been able to do, prove it. You can make claims all day. You can make claims until the cows come home. You can make claims until 9.0 comes and the classes are all just merged into one uberclass that can tank, heal, and DPS all at the same time, negating the needs for groups. But unless you can prove it, that claim isn't worth a thing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Malevicton View Post
    because that's fearmongering. You can find one of just about anything in the world.
    And if SE doesn't want to put in parsers because of that fear, seeing even one person say things like that makes it that much harder to justify adding parsers.
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    Last edited by Aiselia; 09-15-2015 at 03:28 AM.