The Real Problem with Parsers

[Griffeth]

And like how you assume that having 300 less DPS means the moon will grow a face and crash into the planet in three days!

With some fights, there is a really high DPS check. People not doing the DPS to meet the check cause the group to die. I dont understand why people hate on parsers so much

[Aiselia]

Aren't there actually multiple DPS checks across multiple fights where exactly that can happen but with out the 3 days days (nice majora mask reference)

That realization when Dalamud was just a failed DPS check.

Man, parsers could have saved 1.x.

With some fights, there is a really high DPS check.

You don't say? This is news to me. I thought all the fights in the game were balanced around auto-attack only and weaponskills, spells, and abilities were just to make them go faster.

People not doing the DPS to meet the check cause the group to die.

Except for the tank that had just enough HP to survive! For one more hit.

I dont understand why people hate on parsers so much

I don't understand it either. It's so silly.

[Ilan]

When i read that People in this Thread kick other Players out of the damn EX Roulette. Why don't you godlike Players (that seems what you think from yourself) go in there with a premade Party? There wouldn't be people who won't fit in your fine world of playing.

Don't know a Parser for myself would be fine to practice Rotations but the Problem is that most of the People need it to humiliate other People who are not playing on their Level. Thats sadly a part of online Gaming.

Don't get me wrong i don't hate Parsers, i hate People who use them to show their giant Ego and humiliate People who aren't like them.

[Elazu]

most of the People need it to humiliate other People who are not playing on their Level.

Yeah, except this is a blatant lie and you know it.

This fear mongering is getting out of hand.

[Griffeth]

I will say that I have used the parser available, and I have improved my own personal DPS as well as the DPS of a couple FC mates.

If in the right hands it can help identify problems and improve high end play overall. In the wrong hands it can leave a sour taste in players mouths and lead to just overall toxic atmosphere. Not much you can really do about it.

If you remove/ban it you are taking out a good thing because of a couple of people that feel they need to wave their e-peen around.

[Cynfael]

Yeah, except this is a blatant lie and you know it.

This fear mongering is getting out of hand.

People around here are afraid of things that almost never happen, even if they have never happened to them personally.

The Elitist Scare is real.

[Ilan]

Yeah right read the Thread and you see it. Humiliation begins if someone kicks a Player because he doesn't deal the DMG he deals.

I don't even care if i carry a player in a damn random Dungeon. Its a Game and if there is a bad Player in my Party i still can give him Tips or something, but i never would kick him.

And before you suggest i'm one of those Players who will get kicked you are terribly wrong.

[Cynfael]

Yeah right read the Thread and you see it. Humiliation begins if someone kicks a Player because he doesn't deal the DMG he deals.

I don't even care if i carry a player in a damn random Dungeon. Its a Game and if there is a bad Player in my Party i still can give him Tips or something, but i never would kick him.

And before you suggest i'm one of those Players who will get kicked you are terribly wrong.

The issue of toxic players isn't directly linked to parsers, however. You certainly don't need a parser to recognize truly bad gameplay, nor do you need one to shame and/or kick other players.

Similarly, helpful players as well as those seeking to improve will continue to behave as expected, but with the added benefit of being able to make tweaks in response to user-friendly metric feedback.

[Ilan]

Well i allready wrote that i don't hate Parsers but you are right they will find other ways to do the Things they do. But how ever i don't want that Parsers get banned or something, i just wish those freaking toxic Players would vanish from online Games.

[ShanaShirayuki]

When i read that People in this Thread kick other Players out of the damn EX Roulette. Why don't you godlike Players (that seems what you think from yourself) go in there with a premade Party? There wouldn't be people who won't fit in your fine world of playing.

Don't know a Parser for myself would be fine to practice Rotations but the Problem is that most of the People need it to humiliate other People who are not playing on their Level. Thats sadly a part of online Gaming.

Don't get me wrong i don't hate Parsers, i hate People who use them to show their giant Ego and humiliate People who aren't like them.

I'm one of those 'elitists' that use a parser but don't use it to humiliate/kick others. But I guess I have to start kicking and trashing on 'lesser' players now since I'm an elitist parser user, according to assumptions such as the quoted. Seriously though, fear mongering such as this only weakens the stance the anti parser crowd and SE is taking.