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    Quote Originally Posted by StouterTaru View Post
    Word meanings change over time, it's not 1900 any more.
    Even by that definition, "can" is still correct. They, by virtue of action (or lack thereof), give permission to use them. If people didn't essentially have permission to use them, SE would ban everyone that uses them. By not banning everyone who's posted their parse links here, they permit the use of them. If I have all my doors locked and you break in my window and I'm just sitting there watching you steal my things without doing anything, I'm permitting it to happen, even if I want you not to. So sorry, you don't even win a semantic victory.

    Calling someone out on their damage isn't necessarily harassment.
    And what constitutes harassment is subjective. If I was doing 200 DPS in a run and someone ranted at me for half an hour about how terrible I am, I wouldn't care because if I did care, I wouldn't have been auto-attacking only. Other people may consider "Hey, your DPS is a little low, could you do maybe try a bit harder?" to be harassment and report them. You ignored the important point, that whether or not something is objectively harassment, that doesn't mean that reports can't be put in about it and that's something SE has to deal with somehow, costing time and resources that may be better spent responding to more important matters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aiselia View Post
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    If this is considered harassment, then player interaction in general is harassment (and goes on to show just how south this community has gotten if they can't even take personal responsibility for this sort of thing and the developers have to hold our hands through everything. Anything that gets added to the game can be ammunition for harassment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
    If this is considered harassment, then player interaction in general is harassment (and goes on to show just how south this community has gotten if they can't even take personal responsibility for this sort of thing and the developers have to hold our hands through everything. Anything that gets added to the game can be ammunition for harassment.
    And you stopped before the important part: Whether or not it's considered harassment makes no difference if people report it and waste SE's time responding to an increase in tickets. Even if 10,000 people report someone for harassment and none of those reports are actionable, SE still had to devote time and resources to those 10,000 tickets.

    Nobody won victories for being able to carry a gun by saying "Well, I could just stab someone with my pen, so what are you going to do, ban pens?" Nobody won victories for drug legalization by saying "Well, I could just overdose on Tylenol, what are you going to do, ban Tylenol?" So why do people think that they'll win victories for parsers by saying "Well, I could just harass someone for wearing purple clothes, are you going to ban purple dyes?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aiselia View Post
    Even by that definition, "can" is still correct. They, by virtue of action (or lack thereof), give permission to use them.

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    You ignored the important point, that whether or not something is objectively harassment, that doesn't mean that reports can't be put in about it and that's something SE has to deal with somehow, costing time and resources that may be better spent responding to more important matters.
    Permitting something to happen is not the same as giving permission. With your own logic you are giving ISIS permission to commit atrocities.

    People submit reports for worthless BS all the time, parsers wouldn't change anything. I'm sure SE has a crybaby list of people that report everything that they don't like, and zip through their complaints without much investigation.
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