Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
I dunno, it seems kinda spot on to me.
Only if you think that living conditions of an entire country are analogous to a dungeon in a video game taking 20 more minutes.

Yes, I can guarantee that.
So you speak for absolutely everybody in the game that everyone knows the real life details of everybody else and will accept lower DPS coming from someone who has, say, an injured nerve in their hand which prevents certain quick movements?

No, joining content is entering a contract with the group to do, and be able to do, enough healing/tanking/dps to clear the content.
And when you can clear the content but it will just take 20 minutes more, that's acceptable for every person in the game?

Can you stop dragging our conversation in circles?
I'm not. If the only people in a position to prove your claim are SE, and they happen to disagree with your claim, why are you still claiming it? You shouldn't make claims that you can't personally prove and rely on your opponent to prove. (And don't forget, I'm not your opponent because I don't make the decision of whether SE adds a parser or not.)

I went into the content in good faith that everyone present would be able to complete it
And if you were proven wrong, then that should have taught you a valuable lesson that premaking parties is a lot safer.

What makes their queue time worth more than the time of the entire party?
The fact that the entire party had the option to not queue into duty finder and get them.

Maybe help them get better? Just an idea.
If they really wanted to get better, they clearly have the internet and can look up even basic guides on their class.

To paraphrase someone: if the boss dies one second before enrage, I've done too much DPS. Right?
I'm not entirely sure how that's supposed to make sense. But if it's cleared, it's cleared.

It was called Steps of Faith.
Which, in my experience, had less to do with not being good DPS and more to do with not doing mechanics, be it missing DKs, ignoring cannons, or whatever.

Granted, but then they're probably having to leave whatever group they're in to look up guides.
They could do it between groups or in their 30 minute queues. :P I doubt they'll always be in a dungeon and once they're out after failing they completely forget that they failed and requeue. And, I mean, if they refuse to go outside the game to figure out how to play, I don't hold out much hope that they'd listen to a complete stranger judging them in the middle of a dungeon run.

If this is the mentality SE wants to breed, then strict DPS checks probably aren't the way to do it.
Which I've honestly yet to see outside things I wouldn't queue randomly for. And, I mean, if the mentality of "DPS MUST BE THIS HIGH TO RIDE" is contained only in those high end things that actually do require strict DPS checks, that's different from if (and when) it (inevitably) spills into things that don't require strict DPS checks at all just because it may take a few more minutes to get through.

Get back to me when they allow PS3 to have an equal footing.
Are there any serious raid groups that all play on PS3?

And somehow I doubt that you never played with anyone outside the 40 people in your WoW raid back in the day.
Actually, I rarely did. With 40 people in a raid group, there's usually 4 others that wouldn't mind doing other dungeons during down time.

It's less easy to notice something like that, where all buffs and debuffs are up as appropriate, but it's still a very significant issue.
And did you clear it? And if not, was it entirely due to his less DPS?

And that's even if I grant harassment as a drawback of group parsers, which I don't think it is.
Doesn't matter if you do or not. It matters if SE does.

Quote Originally Posted by Isala View Post
It will never cease to amaze me, the lengths someone will go to defend their "right" to suck at a game.
So... you're being another case of why they shouldn't officially add group parsers? I mean, if you're going to harass someone about their DPS when you're not even in a group with them, you clearly couldn't handle actually being in a group with someone with low DPS.