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    ajx's Avatar
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    Faris Dark
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    Lich
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    Thaumaturge Lv 79
    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    I'd rather be kicked based on a useful metric than a useless one. This argument actually better supports the pro-parsing side.

    A4 normal 2 runs /Ramuh Pony farm : 1k DPS or kick.

    I don't see how this would support the pro parsing side .

    Or let's say kick lowest dps who's lower by just 50 dps cause u got no clue why u wiped. This is the same community that kicks someone for explaining tactics to a first timer, or an AST for being nocturnal or early pulls every hunt.

    Hardcore raiders who really need it are using parsers. Those who don't use it right now probably don't really need it
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    ThirdChild_ZKI's Avatar
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    Lace Valeria
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    Jenova
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by ajx View Post
    Those who don't use it right now probably don't really need it
    We've covered all the negatives by now. Now let's cover some positives:

    There's a thread about MCH openers. If that guy had access to a parser perhaps, he could - and this might sound crazy - PRACTICE different openers til he found the most effective one. How would he know it's effective? Numbers. Maybe using one buff before another or one skill after another may produce a better result in the end? That parser may help him.

    There have been people who operate on half-gathered, or misinformed knowledge of their jobs for a long time, mainly due to just not having visual evidence of how wrong it may be. Perhaps they still get the job done, but imagine if they could now see that they're producing B-grade damage, when a few changes and tweaks could easily make them A-grade?

    Why don't we stop looking at all that can go wrong and look instead at what just might go right?
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    Aria Placida
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    Lamia
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    Ninja Lv 88
    Quote Originally Posted by ajx View Post
    A4 normal 2 runs /Ramuh Pony farm : 1k DPS or kick.

    I don't see how this would support the pro parsing side .
    Ravana PF set to i180 minimum. Because, y'know, that's totally not clearable at 170 or lower. Meanwhile the i185 MNK is putting up atrocious numbers because he doesn't know his class. Would you rather be barred from the party for not meeting an entirely subjective metric, or get rid of the weak link objectively holding people back? Meanwhile, if someone's kicking DPS when DPS aren't the problem, leave the group. Feel free to put up a PF below theirs explaining to the server that this person has no clue what they're doing. Or is that to much like improving the community for you?
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    DestinovaTrueblade's Avatar
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    Destinova Trueblade
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    Malboro
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    Dragoon Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by ajx View Post
    A4 normal 2 runs /Ramuh Pony farm : 1k DPS or kick.

    I don't see how this would support the pro parsing side .
    People can set whatever requirements they want for their pre-made. Hell they can say "Everyone must wear pink" and it would still be fine, its a pre-made.
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    Last edited by DestinovaTrueblade; 09-07-2015 at 02:19 AM.