Quote Originally Posted by Aiselia View Post
Good, because I've never said that. What I have said is that if you don't want to deal with random bads, don't queue in a thing that can give you random bads.
Too bad there is absolutely no guarantee of said random bads not joining PF is there? Back to square one again. Same problem. So then the people in the PF are justified to kick, but then still get reported and "waste the time and resources" as I quote from what you said of SE. Your solution to not use DF is not a solution at all.

Quote Originally Posted by Aiselia View Post
Not everybody that's competent is impatient.
Not everybody that's incompetent is patient either. Hasn't there been enough scenarios of the actual bads going "you guys suck" and leaving before the other more patient competent ones?

Quote Originally Posted by Aiselia View Post
I don't know, would they? You realize that taking things to an extreme is not an effective way to disprove an argument, right? Not everybody who's competent cares about whether or not a bad DPS is going to add 10 minutes to their DF run. So taking it to the extreme point of everybody is largely irrelevant unless you think that it's a logically likely scenario.
lol *ahem*

Quote Originally Posted by Aiselia View Post
Brilliant, and then they can lose paying customers because not only do they feel the players are attacking them, they can feel like SE wants the players to keep attacking them because THEY are the ones getting punished for feeling attacked enough to report!
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At this point, it's just everyone repeating the same old arguments over and over. Neither side is going to convince the other that their views are wrong/right. The only thing to do is agree to disagree and continue playing and enjoy the game however it is we've been enjoying it up till now.

General rule of thumb for the competent,
Meet a bad that is causing the content to be unclearable? Don't mention parsers, don't harass, just kick or leave/disband. Got reported? If you haven't said anything that breaks ToS, you won't get banned.