The Real Problem with Parsers

[rappa]

I was kicked from a dungeon because i said to a bard "mind accesories" are not useful to his job. He responded me "i use mind accesories for mp" and i replied piety gives mana, mind gives heal. And bam i was outside the dungeon.

[Rawrz]

I was kicked from a dungeon because i said to a bard "mind accesories" are not useful to his job. He responded me "i use mind accesories for mp" and i replied piety gives mana, mind gives heal. And bam i was outside the dungeon.

You were obviously running a parser. >:C

Saying it again for point proven.

Why is it that SE added an examine feature, which lets anyone who stands near you, or anyone just viewing your lodestone profile, look at your gear? They can track your progression, your effort and your worth.

Imagine if players didn't have the option. You suddenly can't see why your groups aren't reaching DPS checks, no one can single out anyone, because of glamour. Just little comments between each pull like "push the dps harder guys, we can do it this time." Isn't that nice?... but you're still failing content because someone, who although is a good player, is not so good as to keep up with the 20 iLevel difference between themselves and every other party member, but thinking about it, isn't being able to see someone's gear an atrocious and overstepping violation of freedom?

Alternatively, being able to examine someone lets you look at gear to set goals for, to see what other players of your class consider BiS or just the neat Glamour they are using; to be admired and to be shown new things, isn't this that same violation of privacy and privilege?

People don't kick people in average content for poor dps, because of parsers, they do because they are asses. The examine feature is enough for the toxic players to decide your worth.

Please note* You are not the toxic player. xD In this case its that people should be open to advice and constructive criticism that active gameplay, Examine Feature, and parsers can provide. D:

[Archaell]

I was kicked from a dungeon because i said to a bard "mind accesories" are not useful to his job. He responded me "i use mind accesories for mp" and i replied piety gives mana, mind gives heal. And bam i was outside the dungeon.

How could you? The ignorance has to be build over time and now that poor bard has to start over...

It's being said that FFXIV has one of the nicer communities... yet any attempt to help other players learn something new or improve is quite often viewed as an insult or harassment.

This over-sensitivity is getting so crazy that some players consider even "not greeting your DF party members" toxic behaviour ._.

[SpookyGhost]

I was kicked from a dungeon because i said to a bard "mind accesories" are not useful to his job. He responded me "i use mind accesories for mp" and i replied piety gives mana, mind gives heal. And bam i was outside the dungeon.

It was wrong of him to kick you (obviously), but it is kinda sad that these type of players just want to the game to be more than it is.

[RussW]

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I think youre missing the point. I was pointing out reasons that parsers should exist in the game, and using wildfire as an example due to its 15s timer as a variable that could lower someones dps as in other people may not realize that. I never said I pop CDs I was using that as a hypothetical.

Youre entire post could be used as an argument against parsers.

[Askaniz]

This is a game that requires you to be a good dps. I wanna be a good dps and it is only fair I get to know how much DPS I am doing. Me and many other people do not play this game only for its Lore and "mistery".

[Aiselia]

I was kicked from a dungeon because i said to a bard "mind accesories" are not useful to his job. He responded me "i use mind accesories for mp" and i replied piety gives mana, mind gives heal. And bam i was outside the dungeon.

So is this the same one where you posted the screenshot of you not doing that at all and doing nothing but facepalming and presumably trying to kick him out (which failed), or do you, for some reason, get a lot of bards who wear mind accessories thinking it gives MP and for some reason you learned how to be nicer to the later bard and not jumping to a vote kick?

This thread's full of enough bad arguments on the side of parsers, but outright lying about a situation is pretty low, no?

[Lyrica_Ashtine]

This thread's full of enough bad arguments on the side of parsers, but outright lying about a situation is pretty low, no?

So is slander. Look at the character names

[Aiselia]

So is slander. Look at the character names

What about the character names?

Edit: Here, let me be completely transparent and make it very clear to you why I ask this question.

That screenshot isn't the only thing that they posted in the post I quoted. They also had the role/class of the blanked out names and a screenshot of the Bard's Lodestone profile, which means they knew the group and the names. This should make it clear enough that they're not just posting someone else's screenshot they found on the internet.

And then there's this.

Obviously i didn't need a parser to discover this bard was underperforming. Wrong accesories and missing one actived the alarm.
With a parser, you could show his number against other party members. During that AV run, i was a bard too, i doubled the damage from that bard.

I killed a tons of time the first boss from AV and was the first time, the healer was out of mana. I had to eat 5 fruits with 3 stacks each one. After the kill with LB1, i checked the parser and that bard did 10 dps more than tank, and me 100 dps more. It's a lower difference, but doing a dungeon lvl 49, it's a big difference.

Be prepared, he is lvl 50+ and he is ready for Dusk vigil or other HW dungeons. Will be a pain if he doesn't learn anything from his job.

So... you know, them outright stating that the person with the name not blocked off is them because, if you know how to logic, they say that the blocked out people are the tank, Bard, and healer, leaving... well, only one person. The unredacted person.

So now that it's not only proven but admitted by the person that they ARE the named person in that screenshot, I'll re-ask the question.

What about the character names?

[Ossom]

The biggest artifical time gate on this game is bad players. Why would SE ruin this by trying to make players better lol. They love all these bad players that can't parse higher than a Ifrit-egi.