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    Kumori_Kumo's Avatar
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    Kumori Kumo
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    Quote Originally Posted by hallena View Post
    I shouldn't have to make a premade to expect people to know basic informations about their jobs.
    Here's the thing you are critically failing to understand.
    Casual players, AKA the bad ones you hate? They are the lifeblood of this game. Being exceptional by its very nature makes you the minority whether you like it or not. The moment the majority of those players feel like this game is full of hostile assholes who kick them for not playing well enough? They stop playing, they stop paying, and poof. Your game is gone.
    So yes, it does fall on you. And me. And everyone, to tolerate (or, gasp, try to help improve) subpar play.
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    hallena's Avatar
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    Fara Venator
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Kumori_Kumo View Post
    Here's the thing you are critically failing to understand.
    Casual players, AKA the bad ones you hate? They are the lifeblood of this game. Being exceptional by its very nature makes you the minority whether you like it or not. The moment the majority of those players feel like this game is full of hostile assholes who kick them for not playing well enough? They stop playing, they stop paying, and poof. Your game is gone.
    So yes, it does fall on you. And me. And everyone, to tolerate (or, gasp, try to help improve) subpar play.
    Here"s the thing you fail to understand. Casuals doesn't mean bad. I have dozens of casual friends on my server who can both do well in savage and pull 1.1-1.2k+ in dungeons. There is a difference between casual and bad. Learn it
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    Aomine1992's Avatar
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    Daiki Sejuro
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    Meh I'm not for parsers but I'm not against them...only because when I was new I didn't realize how bad I was until a buddy ran a parser and I got my act together real quick and not only tripled my my DPS but I became more aware....

    Buttttttt there are way to many idiots in this game who instead of sending maybe a tell or message amongst friends saying hey your dps is a bit low you can do this....we get in party chat with 7 strangers "hey DRG your DpS is 500 get your ish together" and everyone laughs at this person I got mad and defended them cause it was wrong but thus proving my point of idiots in this games...

    Granted it can go the other way being nice and the person telling you to go f yourself And they play the way they want lol the point is PARSERS are not the problem..but also won't really fix much but carve out a chunk of the games population as being unfit players
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    Viridiana's Avatar
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    Aria Placida
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aomine1992 View Post
    Buttttttt there are way to many idiots in this game who instead of sending maybe a tell or message amongst friends saying hey your dps is a bit low you can do this....we get in party chat with 7 strangers "hey DRG your DpS is 500 get your ish together" and everyone laughs at this person I got mad and defended them cause it was wrong but thus proving my point of idiots in this games...
    Well, unfortunately, we aren't able to send tells in instances. Because it can be used for harassment, according to SE. Anyone else noticing a trend?
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    Sallannah's Avatar
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    Sallannah Sedia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kumori_Kumo View Post
    You need a parser to see someone's failing that hard in a four-man?



    Then go make a preformed group and run it with that group. The DF is not your personal crucible.
    With all due respect... the VTK tool is there for a reason, and that is to remove undesirable players from groups. YOU don't get to tell others players who they should or should not VTK, that's up to them and anyone else voting in favour or against removing said terrible player.
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    Tyrius Highwind
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    Famfrit
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    Monk Lv 90
    I hate people that hate on parser's Ill tell you why I use one

    For starters I like to improve my game play, I like to play around with a rotation and see which one nets the best dps. I like to compare and see what works well in s situation my optimal rotation might not work on a certain fight but a different one might do better My parser helps me do this. Also not everyone who uses one is a dick and flames people Alot of us use it TO BETTER OURSELVES

    The only time I ever say something about a parse Is to tell some one WOW you did an awesome job you put up some big numbers.

    I love to go into a run and at the end see my numbers and say to myself holy shit that was freaking awesome! or go wow I did a little worse that run then last time let me look at the numbers and see what caused that.

    THE ONLY TIME I EVER SAY SOMETHING TO SOME ONE IS IF A GROUP IS TRYING SO HARD TO CLEAR SOMETHING AND YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY NOT CONTRIBUTING IN A WAY THAT IS POSITIVE FOR THE GROUP if everyone is above say 300k dps and you are at 99k their is an issue and I dont even say anything bad normally I say something like hey man might wanna pick it up a bit.

    I dont feel like parse ruins a game or excludes a person from content it is a Tool to be used to help people, if you get kicked from a group it was the groups decision to do so not the parse or a single person the GROUP
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    Last edited by Tyrius; 10-16-2015 at 04:04 AM.

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    warren-ragnarok's Avatar
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    Warren Slassi
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    Lamia
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    to the OP:
    parsers DONT really matter that much. often times, you can look at people's hate gauges and get somewhat of an idea of what people are doing damage-wise

    second, if you want to see parsers have alot less use? get SE to stop making phases push-able and stop putting in content that have dps checks, until that happens, they will still be there

    to anyone else that despises parsers or just want to play to have fun?
    avoid any content that has dps checks and you arnt doing yourself or anyone else any favors
    use PF to build your own group instead or get a carry group
    yes it sucks that it is said, but you can blame yourself and SE for your weakness and the high ceiling on that content

    if you really do want to do that content, dont be affraid to ask for assistance to get better, like rotations and tips, and dont be afraid to ask people to parse you
    (many people that do have parsers are helpful.....but not all sadly)
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    Aly Catra
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    Balmung
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    Monk Lv 60
    This is a game that requires you to be a good dps. I wanna be a good dps and it is only fair I get to know how much DPS I am doing. Me and many other people do not play this game only for its Lore and "mistery".
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    Mini Boss
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    Ultros
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    Lancer Lv 60
    I'll be honest with you. The Devs keep on saying they don't support parsers, yet they keep on adding DPS check shit. They are the ones who created the monsters and condemned them at the same time.
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    Malevicton's Avatar
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    Zappa Dattic
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    Behemoth
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by thunderbreak View Post
    I'll be honest with you. The Devs keep on saying they don't support parsers, yet they keep on adding DPS check shit. They are the ones who created the monsters and condemned them at the same time.
    Well really, the community keeps saying that devs keep on saying that they don't support parsers.

    What the devs have actually said that they don't really care and understand their utility. https://youtu.be/3-WXYg-S05U?t=6m6s
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    When in doubt, assume sarcasm

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