The obsession with "efficiency"

[Tadus]

This is one problem we will never solve lol. we have the hard core people who prefer efficiency(like my self) and we have those lay back. One is water and the other is Oil.

One thing is for sure though, those lay back are doom to do their stuff only via DF and stick to primals. They will not get a static also.

[adn]

It really isn't about efficiency. It's a byproduct of S-E making DPS/gear checks pretty much the be-all end-all mechanic in HW for whatever reason. DPS checks on BisEX, RavEX, all of Alexander, and I won't be surprised if hard DPS checks continue to show up in the near future. It's a double edged sword because it does force DPS to L2P, but on the other hand it has exacerbated the problem of classes being excluded from groups.

If they ever ease off of it you can probably expect people to stop being so obsessed over slight differences in DPS (and they really ARE slight differences in DPS, it's just that because of such harsh DPS checks, those slight differences start to matter)

[UBERHAXED]

It really isn't about efficiency. It's a byproduct of S-E making DPS/gear checks pretty much the be-all end-all mechanic in HW for whatever reason. DPS checks on BisEX, RavEX, all of Alexander, and I won't be surprised if hard DPS checks continue to show up in the near future. It's a double edged sword because it does force DPS to L2P, but on the other hand it has exacerbated the problem of classes being excluded from groups.

If they ever ease off of it you can probably expect people to stop being so obsessed over slight differences in DPS (and they really ARE slight differences in DPS, it's just that because of such harsh DPS checks, those slight differences start to matter)

Might as well not have gear if we have no dps checks, seeing as it wont matter. Also the alternative is to release the original second coil for the story mode and savage second coil for, well, savage. I mean you couldn't even scratch your nose in T7 back then.

[Kukajoo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgOXitbf1t8

the first thing i thought of
sorry but also not

[Ayuhra]

Some people actually have fun playing the game properly instead of banging the keyboard like cavemen and calling it be dps, tanking or healing.

If you don't play the game this way then you haven't lived, I say.

[Blissa]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgOXitbf1t8

the first thing i thought of
sorry but also not

OMG that was funny LOL LOL LOL LOL! The sad part is thats the way most people think!

[Blissa]

All I have to say is I don't raid because I am 40 years old and I am not going to put up with the BS that comes with raiding. I raided when I was in my 20's and early 30's. Now I play how ever I see fit and make the game my own game. And I am much HAPPIER now.

[File2ish]

I think every job is been excluded at some point, aside from DRK and NIN from what I can recall.

At one point:

BLM got excluded from Titan EX because of heavy movement.
SMN excluded because BLM just plain beat it out in damage.
All of the above plus Monk and DRG got excluded from Garuda EX because stacking bards was safer, even if it was slower. (before LB gauge filled slower with stacked jobs)
WAR was excluded because PLD was better at taking damage early on.
PLD excluded because it's abilities aren't suited towards certain content like A4S
WHM excluded because SCH shields are amazing and fairy buddy helps a lot.
SCH excluded because stacking HoTs on WHM was great plus the burst heals
BRD was excluded from groups for being the lowest DPS despite it's utility and Foe
MCH excluded for low DPS
AST excluded for low healing output and buffs from SCH being better and more consistent.


Balance changes, usually for the better. Sometimes it makes things overpowered, other times underpowered.

[Firepower]

I think every job is been excluded at some point, aside from DRK and NIN from what I can recall.

You missed out:

ALL tanks excluded from Ramuh EX because SMN's Titan pet had overpowered aoe magic resist completely bypassing the tank swap and surge protection mechanic of the trial.
Brayflox Hard: BLM being the only DPS allowed on runs for animus tome grind.

[LunaHoshino]

I think every job is been excluded at some point, aside from DRK and NIN from what I can recall.

You also forgot DRGs being excluded from Final Coil because of our terrible MDEF (until they fixed it).