Isn't this class trinity a bit dated now?

[Anova]

any system that work better then trinity has not found for. eso failed guild wars 2 failed. the trinity is only system that works. eso we give you ability to be any of class. great now i sneak in being dps when claim to be a healer. guild wars 2 dev we give you ability in your class to switch your weapon. player crap this system still need a tank or healer to keep party alive

Actually, there weren't as many problems with those two games removing the trinity as you think. What they did really was no different than FFXIV where players could pick and choose abilities that made them fit a tank/dps/support role. FFXIV just makes it much more obvious it's a completely different job/role/playstyle compared to those two games. It was the other problems that caused a mass exodus and made the game feel like a desert.

The biggest problem for ESO was that the Elder Scroll game fans wanted an Elder Scrolls game and got an mmo inspired by Elder Scrolls. Players didn't leave ESO because they disliked the system, but that they wanted to customize the game more than what the devs could and that Skyrim offered everything they wanted (especially once player created content copied elements from ESO).

GW2 simply has an atrocious economy. Part of it was due to their innovative counter to RMT by becoming the gold traders themselves to monetize their development, but it backfired on them and drove in game prices and real world prices through the roof. Couple that with the horizontal progression and a lot of players just stopped playing as much once they got through the story and got their gear.

[Misutoraru]

I like playing support role, but I won't work well in FFXIV
If a support role is a must for dungeon run, the time wait to form a full party would be quite long, nevertheless it will lengthen the dps queue time which is already bad enough
If the support role deal same level of damage as other dos class, we have a balancing issue, support class will alway be a favour over pure dps, if we lower the output of support, who would take a support to dungeon
Furthermore, the support skill in FFXIV is kinda lacking, amost all class have some utilities they help party progression, and what BRD and MCN left is only TP, MP regen, which I almost never ever use them in dungeon, even the 24 ppl tower I have never use them
The whole FFXIV 2.0 system was build base on trinity, and it is very unlikely to change

[Fevelle]

which is why we won't ever see a haste spell.

DONT YOU TRIGGER ME AAAA

[Tint]

The whole FFXIV 2.0 system was build base on trinity, and it is very unlikely to change

somehow they managed to turn all classes into DPS roles. so, changes are possible xD

okay...

the only real possibility i see for support classes is to rebalance all dungeons for 1 tank, 1 heal, 2 dps and 1 support BUT don't remove the old 4 people balance. so if a support role is in the que you get the 5 people dungeon. if there is no supporter for you after a short while you get the 4 people dungeon.

okay... i don't like my idea btw xD

[Valkyrie-Amber]

Why are BRD's and MCH's referred to as a dps class yet they aren't pure dps they are support?

A Same geared BRD/MCH has no hope of beating any other dps classes dps unless the person your comparing to totally sux....

[Leogun]

DISCLAIMER: I'm not very experienced in the game yet.

I don't think adding a Support category to the duty finder is a good idea because the duty finder's purpose (at least in my perspective) is meant to make pug groups as easy to form and play in. If more specialization is desired for such tasks, perhaps creating a new type of system separate from the duty finder would be better.

On the subject of hybrids, I'd like more options for that in character builds and abilities. If anything, BRD/MCH shouldn't be the only possibilities and those same jobs should have an option to focus more on one aspect of their role. For example; a support monk, an aoe dps bard, off tank dragoon, lol tank white mage. Not sure how you'd do that, perhaps with more systems to trade main job skills for others or modified traits that alter your main skills.

[Jpec07]

Isn't this class trinity a bit dated now?

No. Not even a little.

[Savagelf]

i happy with the system ffxiv been no complex talents that make hard to understand game be born adhd sometime i miss detail when play my class or job

[DPZ2]

So we have this nooby friendly Trinity of Tank, Healer and DPS. Which I get it, its there to kinda break people into the system of MMOs but aren't we past that now?

The Trinity isn't there to introduce people to group combat in an MMO, the Trinity is the group combat premise in an MMO. It is there because you will always have people of disparate abilities in the game and predictability of outcome in group combat requires it.

[Zephan]

The Trinity isn't there to introduce people to group combat in an MMO, the Trinity is the group combat premise in an MMO. It is there because you will always have people of disparate abilities in the game and predictability of outcome in group combat requires it.

No, it's not. It's the premise in most of the hugely-popular MMOs, sure, but then there are things like Elder Scrolls Online, Guild Wars 2, RaiderZ, Blade and Soul, etc. Particularly in action-MMOs such as RaiderZ - where survivability is ultimately based on skill due to attacks being manually avoidable, with gear only serving as a "cushion" - tanks and healers are essentially nothing but a crutch to be overcome.