Companies - You're Locked in for Life!

[Jynx]

I'm glad there is finally a choice in the game that has some damn consequences. People might actually have to think before choosing.

Damn...

[Oscillate_Wildly]

I don't know, see. Here's the thing. I don't know which GC to join. And in everyone's haste to join one to get their chocobo, what if they've chosen the wrong one? I'm not saying there's a right or wrong, no, but I'm saying we know next to nothing about how the game will pan out in the future. And so what seems right (like liking Ul'dah) might sometime down the road turn out to be incredibly BORING.

It's like joining in WotG and choosing Bastok, but then find out that Windurst has some of the best goddamn story and CS's to experience. I don't remember whether or not you could change, but to pick now when we don't know how this game will go....It's a really personal choice I suppose. One that we have to make now.

I haven't actually chosen yet and I think I'm going to wait for a few more months to see how it goes Chocobos be damned. Because we cannot change at least once down the road it's a tricky decision. And if it turns out my least favourite City state is the most popular or exciting, what then? I certainly won't be happy, so I'm going to exercise some control.



I would have loved it if, as perhaps a Maelstrom memeber I could assist with Ul'dah for a fraction of the rewards just to play with friends. My LS has a very open GC policy which leaves everyone doing what they please. I also like to be in Ul'dah more than I like being in Limsa Lominsa, but I absolutely hate Ul'dah's GC. If they could allow us to play and join in the caravans they would probably be a lot more popular to join while you're in either of the 3 city states instead of having to travel back to your own to get seals.

How this is all set up is remarkably horrible. At least we can do other things with friends but yeesh. I thought the GC's were supposed to collaborate, not be secretly at, albeit playful, war with one another by not allowing them to assist with caravan deliveries.

[Cycloptichorn]

How this is all set up is remarkably horrible. At least we can do other things with friends but yeesh. I thought the GC's were supposed to collaborate, not be secretly at, albeit playful, war with one another by not allowing them to assist with caravan deliveries.

The GC's aren't at war with each other, but it's a case of nationalistic pride and competition.

Remember that the groups WE are allowed to join, are special 'branches' of the traditional companies which are reserved for... outsiders. Every one of our characters CAME to the big city and is considered an 'adventurer.' It makes sense that if we are going to be allowed access to the armory of the city, and given special missions to do, that they would request our loyalty in return; and that other cities would disdain a traitor and not allow them into their ranks.

[Evenstar]

This isn't copying WoW. In FF11 you could change your faction.

No you couldn't until like MUCH later.

[Gidonoidon_Sur]

Off topic. I am torn on which GC to choose. I was going to pick Grid bc I like that Grid has LNC CRP and BOT guilds. But, the leader's speech was meh and the overcoats are ok. Limsa is cool looking city, has MRD guild (but two that aren't even in game yet),decent gear (although will change), and sweet ass overcoats...good lord their gear looks cool (leader was pretty weak IMO, though). Finally, UL, lame coats, guilds are ok, but the leader is a beast....I have no idea which to choose!

[darkstarpoet1]

I'm glad there is finally a choice in the game that has some damn consequences. People might actually have to think before choosing.

Damn...

the question is what is there to think about at this point? say the companies when they start releasing class specific gear for each city. if grid started with the original release on thm gear i may want to drop my alliance with uldah and switch to grid because thm/blm is my main.

that's like getting 3 letters from colleges you have never heard of saying you have been accepted, but not give you even a listing of what classes they offer. they all charge you 80k, but you have to make a decision off no information.

i know yoshi stated that each company would have comparable gear in the future, but right now we don't know if each will come out with the same class gear within a reasonable time frame of each other. my fear is with a thm main i took uldah because that's where the guild was, but they also stated the guilds had no relevance on where the gear went first nor did the gear already in the companies. it's hard to justify a single choice when you are not making an informed decision.

[Oscillate_Wildly]

The GC's aren't at war with each other, but it's a case of nationalistic pride and competition.

Remember that the groups WE are allowed to join, are special 'branches' of the traditional companies which are reserved for... outsiders. Every one of our characters CAME to the big city and is considered an 'adventurer.' It makes sense that if we are going to be allowed access to the armory of the city, and given special missions to do, that they would request our loyalty in return; and that other cities would disdain a traitor and not allow them into their ranks.

That makes sense, and no I didn't mean 'war' war, but I recall one NPC in Ul'dah calling those in Gridania 'tree huggers'. It was laughable and clearly not meant to be violent but still playfully rude. And that's fine and all but if I cannot have a one off trade from one city to the other I refuse to yet serve internet-loyally to one City. It was easier in XI because I'd been playing for so long and loved Windurst so I knew what I was signing up for.

So I get the idea of why they're sort of...."ahhhh, you guys! -playful punch-" but they are working together in a sense. To be unable to assist and form unity between the companies by assisting with Caravans is silly! And hopefully at this time that's the end of that. Especially when it comes time for Hamlet defence, which should permit all GC adventurers to help one another.
This will be especially silly if they continue to break people up depending on which company they chose. If you ask me, yes I believe that there should be some sort of loyalty but in the future I hope all companies will be able to assist one another as they are united under one common threat.

Missions and storylines early on should center on the cities and the company themselves, but hopefully as they've said earlier I think, everyone will be experiencing the same content only made different by the CS's and characters involved. Also another reason why I haven't joined one yet. :S

[Oscillate_Wildly]

the question is what is there to think about at this point? say the companies when they start releasing class specific gear for each city. if grid started with the original release on thm gear i may want to drop my alliance with uldah and switch to grid because thm/blm is my main.

that's like getting 3 letters from colleges you have never heard of saying you have been accepted, but not give you even a listing of what classes they offer. they all charge you 80k, but you have to make a decision off no information.

i know yoshi stated that each company would have comparable gear in the future, but right now we don't know if each will come out with the same class gear within a reasonable time frame of each other. my fear is with a thm main i took uldah because that's where the guild was, but they also stated the guilds had no relevance on where the gear went first nor did the gear already in the companies. it's hard to justify a single choice when you are not making an informed decision.

I think at this point it'd be safe to assume that they will start releasing all gear in every state. Or at the very least, make the costs double for buying from a different company while still making Company unique gear (like the over coat sets, patriots chokers, and in later updates chocobo equipment unique to the companies with the emblems. But as they don't quite release anything too worthwhile (aside from the coats which have a pretty badass model) I don't think it's that much of an issue. But if it becomes one, then I'm all for the ability to change at least once.

Or you know, just like XI, make the equipment sellable. Why must everything that pops out of that goddamn place that isn't craftable, why is it all Rare/ex? Good lord.

[Jynx]

if grid started with the original release on thm gear i may want to drop my alliance with uldah and switch to grid because thm/blm is my main.

Allow the purchase of other guilds gear for inflated seal prices, boom problem solved.

[Oscillate_Wildly]

Allow the purchase of other guilds gear for inflated seal prices, boom problem solved.

Yes, seems to be the popular alternative.

Seeing as the gear isn't exactly all-that I don't see why the gear itself is Unique/Untradeable (rare/ex, whatever you want to call it) at all. Is it still all rare/ex? Because that's a bit ridiculous. I get that gear that drops from Ifrit is Rare/ex, but a level 20 robe from Ul'dah? lol