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    Nektulos-Tuor's Avatar
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    Cleric Stance - Penalty

    I have wondered for awhile. If you can just turn it off and turn it on for no cost or GCD why is there even a penalty attached to it? Most of the time when I heal and want to use it I turn it on and use it, but some times I click it off and it lags and doesn't switch off. Why is there an on and off mechanic when there is no penalty to it whatsoever?

    Cleric Stance
    Grants 95% INT from MND attribute ratings, while increasing potency of attack magic by 10% whilst granting 50% Accuracy. Effect ends upon reuse. Cannot be used in PvP areas.

    This means it would just be a passive buff. You would not need worry about lag affecting you.
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    Kersam Vidfamne
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    When you turn it on, there is a cooldown before you can turn it off again. So you are stuck in cleric stance for 5 seconds.
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    They could also just make healers' offensive spells scale off MND. Only potential issue would be Assize...
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    Sacrilege Moonshadow
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    No thank you to nerfing CS damage. I will happily keep my 100% MND->INT swap.

    An accuracy bonus would be nice, but not holding my breath.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kersam View Post
    When you turn it on, there is a cooldown before you can turn it off again. So you are stuck in cleric stance for 5 seconds.
    Yeah, but its not really an issue. You turn it on when you need it, turn it off when you don't. Its more of you some times trip on yourself and mess up. Everyones done it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    Yeah, but its not really an issue.
    It actually is a pretty big issue, because turning it on at the wrong time can kill your tank quite handily. It's supposed to add an element of skill to DPSing by requiring you to think ahead as to whether your party will be safe for 8 seconds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrasteia View Post
    It actually is a pretty big issue, because turning it on at the wrong time can kill your tank quite handily. It's supposed to add an element of skill to DPSing by requiring you to think ahead as to whether your party will be safe for 8 seconds.
    Yeah, but some times you do click it to turn it off and it doesn't click.
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    Spoekes Magica
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    Yeah, but some times you do click it to turn it off and it doesn't click.
    Thats most likely because you are trying to queue more than one ogcd skill.

    To clarify, you can press CS while a heal is casting. CS is then queued and activated the moment the cast goes off.
    The same goes for Aetherflow for example.

    What you cannot do is queue Aetherflow and queue CS at the same time, you must press CS after Aetherflow has been used.

    There is not ever a moment when CS does not work if you handle it correctly.
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    Koromo Amae
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spoekes View Post
    There is not ever a moment when CS does not work if you handle it correctly.
    so you never had the problem you wanted to disable CS but it just didnt, you press it again and then you see it disable and instantly enable again? (with no other skill casting)
    may just be my lag (cant wait for the EU server center) but this has happened more often to me than i can count

    the fact how ogc skills queue is quite interesting though. always thought it has to work kind of this way. i should try to make better use of this
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    ^

    That would be lag. Nothing happens then you click it again and then it turns off and on again. Sometimes people just do that by accident anyway while in a rush to turn it off. Foir this it's always good to have benediction in reserve for a WHM. You will only ever need it when failing to turn cleric stance off because of derp and you have to save the Tank.
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