Healers accuracy

[Culfinrandir]

Not just scholars mate, every healer has 354 accuracy on bis gear.

WHM is the only one of the 3 that got the short stick, SCH has shadow flare, bio and bio II that bypass accuracy and total 790 potency, AST has combust and combust II that also bypass accuracy and total 690 and then WHM has 3 dots and all 3 can miss.

My WHM is only 51 so I hedged my bet & I don't AST at all. Like I said though, even ignoring DPS output like bio et al (the 790 potency you mentioned), our most important debuff, miasma, can miss. Even worse, our only MP management/regain system based on Energy Drain can miss. In a rare unlucky situation we can start struggling if we miss all three energy drains. That just shouldn't happen. Both WHM & AST have a form of mana control that, AFAIK, aren't acc dependant.

[mp-please]

our most important debuff, miasma, can miss

The healing debuff is irrelevant on PVE and the heavy status can be inflicted with miasma II, while it can still miss, being instant cast it makes it easier to put heavy on something than whm with stone I or a astrologian with stella.

When it comes to mana drain, scholars that don't use mana drain have the exact same mp regain as a whm over the course of 10 mins (usual raid time) so comparing classes isn't correct even if missing a mp draining attack can really suck.

[Adrasteia]

When it comes to mana drain, scholars that don't use mana drain have the exact same mp regain as a whm over the course of 10 mins (usual raid time) so comparing classes isn't correct even if missing a mp draining attack can really suck.

Could you post the numbers for this?

[TatoRazzino]

Could you post the numbers for this?

What numbers do you need? Aetherflow recovers 20% of SCH's MP every minute; LA and SoS give a MP refresh tick every two minutes, and that refresh does not give 40% of the MP; Assize recovers 10% of the MP and has a cooldown. I have absolutely no idea why SCHs are crying about not recovering MP with energy drain when no SCH needs that if they're using Aetherflow properly.

[mp-please]

Could you post the numbers for this?

This was done at full i180, even before alexander nm came out so the values aren't updated.

Shroud now restores 707 mp per tick so 3535 mp per use +1287 from assize so ~24110 mp on a 10 min fight. Meanwhile scholars, assuming they don't use energy drain at all, gain 2467 mp per min with a total of 24670 on a 10 min fight.

If they do, do it on cleric and decide to sacrifice all aether stacks into energy drain (for some reason) that's +26520 mp over 10 mins (and +7956 mp and if they use dissipation to gain even more aether stacks) so +59146 mp regain in 10 mins.

[Culfinrandir]

What numbers do you need? Aetherflow recovers 20% of SCH's MP every minute; LA and SoS give a MP refresh tick every two minutes, and that refresh does not give 40% of the MP; Assize recovers 10% of the MP and has a cooldown. I have absolutely no idea why SCHs are crying about not recovering MP with energy drain when no SCH needs that if they're using Aetherflow properly.

Nobody is crying. Just pointing out that a SCH ONLY action that regains MP is influenced by accuracy. You're the one who over inflated a simple statement into a drama.

[Staris]

The sch in my group is Acc capped.
2 left side 180 (chest + something), and 3 (or 4 i forget) accessories melded, plus food.

It certainly boosted our groups dps. If it helped us beat a3 even 1 lockout sooner it would be worth it for us, and it probably did.

If It didn't cost about 20 mil to do, I would have also done it. (Much less of a gain for two healers to cap though).

[FoxyAreku]

The sch in my group is Acc capped.
2 left side 180 (chest + something), and 3 (or 4 i forget) accessories melded, plus food.

It certainly boosted our groups dps. If it helped us beat a3 even 1 lockout sooner it would be worth it for us, and it probably did.

If It didn't cost about 20 mil to do, I would have also done it. (Much less of a gain for two healers to cap though).

That feels so risky though! Less health and less potent heals, I know healers aren't exactly gear dependent like tanks and dps are but that just seems like such a risky thing to do.

[TatoRazzino]

That feels so risky though! Less health and less potent heals, I know healers aren't exactly gear dependent like tanks and dps are but that just seems like such a risky thing to do.

Actually, that's not bad at all. Dropping mind to get accuracy can be very smart if you're losing too much DPS from missing. Losing around 40 MND barely takes 100 from your average healing output, and sometimes, due to RNG, you can pull similar numbers in terms of healing.

[Culfinrandir]

You're crying. It's not the ONLY action that regains MP for SCH. If you don't know that by now, you shouldn't play SCH. If your MP management is tied to you hitting a skill most SCHs don't use that often because they consume a stack that could be used for healing, you shouldn't be playing SCH. In fact, if you're having MP issues as a SCH, you shouldn't be playing SCH.

Oh aren't you a delight? Resorting to personal attacks just shows that you can't hold a cogent conversation. I take my leave.