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    Staris's Avatar
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    The sch in my group is Acc capped.
    2 left side 180 (chest + something), and 3 (or 4 i forget) accessories melded, plus food.

    It certainly boosted our groups dps. If it helped us beat a3 even 1 lockout sooner it would be worth it for us, and it probably did.

    If It didn't cost about 20 mil to do, I would have also done it. (Much less of a gain for two healers to cap though).
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    Areku Foxfire
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    Quote Originally Posted by Staris View Post
    The sch in my group is Acc capped.
    2 left side 180 (chest + something), and 3 (or 4 i forget) accessories melded, plus food.

    It certainly boosted our groups dps. If it helped us beat a3 even 1 lockout sooner it would be worth it for us, and it probably did.

    If It didn't cost about 20 mil to do, I would have also done it. (Much less of a gain for two healers to cap though).
    That feels so risky though! Less health and less potent heals, I know healers aren't exactly gear dependent like tanks and dps are but that just seems like such a risky thing to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxyAreku View Post
    That feels so risky though! Less health and less potent heals, I know healers aren't exactly gear dependent like tanks and dps are but that just seems like such a risky thing to do.

    Actually, that's not bad at all. Dropping mind to get accuracy can be very smart if you're losing too much DPS from missing. Losing around 40 MND barely takes 100 from your average healing output, and sometimes, due to RNG, you can pull similar numbers in terms of healing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxyAreku View Post
    That feels so risky though! Less health and less potent heals, I know healers aren't exactly gear dependent like tanks and dps are but that just seems like such a risky thing to do.
    No.
    more health because the acc are acc than vit melded.
    and the difference in heals is meaningless.
    It took 2 heals to top people off before with 30% overhealing, now it takes 2 heals with 28% overhealing.
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    Sacrilege Moonshadow
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    Quote Originally Posted by TatoRazzino View Post
    ...a skill most SCHs don't use that often because they consume a stack that could be used for healing
    I don't know which SCHs you're playing with, but many SCHs consider ED to be a core ability for the better-than-free oGCD DPS it provides. Only in the most dire of situations should you actually need to reserve all 3 Aetherflow stacks for direct healing.
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    Nox Arcana
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cynfael View Post
    I don't know which SCHs you're playing with, but many SCHs consider ED to be a core ability for the better-than-free oGCD DPS it provides. Only in the most dire of situations should you actually need to reserve all 3 Aetherflow stacks for direct healing.
    Agreed.

    Every fight is scripted. All damage is scripted and predictable. If no one fucks up, you can plan your Aetherflow usage well in advance, which means you'll know when you need a lustrate, a sacred soil, or an indom. Almost always you are able to use at least one aetherflow stack on energy drain per minute. Many times more. Saving your stacks for "just in case emergency situations" is really not optimal- not for your MP or your potential dps output, because if nothing wrong happens (which it shouldn't), then you've wasted a whole lot of stacks/mp/dps for nothing.

    Scholars (good ones) use ED far more than you think.
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    Last edited by Noxe; 09-08-2015 at 03:38 AM.

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    Culfinrandir Caladel
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    Quote Originally Posted by TatoRazzino View Post
    You're crying. It's not the ONLY action that regains MP for SCH. If you don't know that by now, you shouldn't play SCH. If your MP management is tied to you hitting a skill most SCHs don't use that often because they consume a stack that could be used for healing, you shouldn't be playing SCH. In fact, if you're having MP issues as a SCH, you shouldn't be playing SCH.
    Oh aren't you a delight? Resorting to personal attacks just shows that you can't hold a cogent conversation. I take my leave.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Culfinrandir View Post
    Oh aren't you a delight? Resorting to personal attacks just shows that you can't hold a cogent conversation. I take my leave.
    From the comments you made, it's clear that you don't know the job you play, so I don't see how my pointing that out is a personal attack. However, if you consider my comment a personal attack, which is extremely childish in my opinion, then I also have the right to consider your first comment towards me a personal attack, when you said that I was overreacting to SCHs crying about missing ED because of MP issues. Read the forum and you'll see tons of comments about SCH MP management with Aetherflow, some stating that SCHs have infinite MP – which is one of the reasons SCHs can do so much DPS in a raid situation. Since you didn't bother to do that and you can't admit that you don't know much about healing and MP control, I don't have the obligation to be "delightful", specially with you. Take your leave, no one cares.
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    Sylvana Tenebri
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    Wait, so it's harder for heals to carry bad DPS? Sweet.
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    Staris Fate
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    Wait, so it's harder for heals to carry bad DPS? Sweet.
    It's not just about "bad dps"
    It's also about killing things multiple lockouts before the "good dps" can have enough gear carry the "bad healer" who doesn't dps.

    But yes plenty of bad dps also.
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