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  1. #11
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    Maero's Avatar
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    I'shtola Maqa
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    Leviathan
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Best QOL or one of the best so far
    And i always goad or when playing Bard sing. Players are just bad that do not bother.
    On a sidenote all the new dungeons for example by no means starve you of tp.
    No sure about Alex and such as i play as blm
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  2. #12
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    Odett Telos
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    Lamia
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Gilraen View Post
    As a Bard you have access to Invigorate so I don't see the issue. Don't have Invigorate? Well, that's a problem you can easily fix. Personally I'd rather see Goad go to the tank. Yes, this is me, the Bard, saying Goad should go to the tank. I'm just a DD, my job is to kill things and sing songs. If I start going yellow I slow down on my output so the tank can get it back without spamming moves (unless it's something like a bee, then I go ahead and draw aggro as I dump everything in murdering it). I don't need Goad, and will never ask for it. But if you need Paeon then I'm perfectly fine obliging.
    Invigorate will not be enough to keep up BRD's AoE TP consumption. If you're going to AoE to do more damage and resort to singing a Paeon because the NIN is too lazy to goad you and you reduce your own damage, then that defeats the purpose of AoEing in the first place. Even when you're not AoEing, if you're playing BRD correctly on 3 trash mobs and DoTing everything, your TP will get murdered as well.

    TLDR; pls goad your BRDs.
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  3. #13
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    Gilraen Bior
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    Midgardsormr
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    Archer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Odett View Post
    TLDR; pls goad your BRDs.
    I never sing for myself, seems too self-serving and I still don't think I'm benefiting from it. And seriously, I've actually lost my temper at being Goaded during a dungeon where the tank was a marauder, they thrive on TP and having a few seconds of infinite amounts of it seem far more useful to them than giving it to me when I DO have Invigorate. With the change to Rain of Death I don't burn TP as badly during AoE attack spam as I used to as long as I can keep Venomous Bite and Windbite up. But this is all just me and my own preferences.
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  4. #14
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    Aeon Rakshasa
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    Lich
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Gilraen View Post
    I never sing for myself, seems too self-serving and I still don't think I'm benefiting from it. And seriously, I've actually lost my temper at being Goaded during a dungeon where the tank was a marauder, they thrive on TP and having a few seconds of infinite amounts of it seem far more useful to them than giving it to me when I DO have Invigorate. With the change to Rain of Death I don't burn TP as badly during AoE attack spam as I used to as long as I can keep Venomous Bite and Windbite up. But this is all just me and my own preferences.
    Dang because even if I do keep up those DoTs I never have enough TP during AOEing..always end up having to play for myself.
    And no, I don't use the coolest useless skill, Wide Volley.
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  5. #15
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    no goad for you D:!
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  6. #16
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    m3eansean's Avatar
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    Kakashi Hatake
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    Brynhildr
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    Ninja Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Gilraen View Post
    I never sing for myself, seems too self-serving and I still don't think I'm benefiting from it. And seriously, I've actually lost my temper at being Goaded during a dungeon where the tank was a marauder, they thrive on TP and having a few seconds of infinite amounts of it seem far more useful to them than giving it to me when I DO have Invigorate. With the change to Rain of Death I don't burn TP as badly during AoE attack spam as I used to as long as I can keep Venomous Bite and Windbite up. But this is all just me and my own preferences.
    I've had warriors tell me they need Goad the least, and that a DRK or PLD would need it more. As it stands use it and someone yells at you, don't use it and someone yells at you.
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  7. #17
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    Gilraen Bior
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    Midgardsormr
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    Quote Originally Posted by m3eansean View Post
    I've had warriors tell me they need Goad the least, and that a DRK or PLD would need it more. As it stands use it and someone yells at you, don't use it and someone yells at you.
    Well, I like to think a person is smart. If I don't need Goad then it shouldn't be that much of a leap to use it on someone that does.
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  8. #18
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    Odett Telos
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    Lamia
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by m3eansean View Post
    I've had warriors tell me they need Goad the least, and that a DRK or PLD would need it more. As it stands use it and someone yells at you, don't use it and someone yells at you.
    the fix to Blood Sword has alleviated some TP issues. In single target battles, a tank would probably need goad more unless its a training dummy fight like T8, but when AoEing, under no circumstances should you Goad a PLD or DRK.
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  9. #19
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    Duke Burden
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    Cactuar
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    I think the TP bar looks kinda janky.... it's just a blank bar... we know what it is but it just looks so incomplete...
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  10. #20
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    m3eansean's Avatar
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    Kakashi Hatake
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    Brynhildr
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    Ninja Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Odett View Post
    the fix to Blood Sword has alleviated some TP issues. In single target battles, a tank would probably need goad more unless its a training dummy fight like T8, but when AoEing, under no circumstances should you Goad a PLD or DRK.
    Wasn't an AOE specific situation. On longer ST battles like boss fights, I've had Warriors comment twice so far, that goad is not needed (they were at half TP). The other dps were magic based, not needing tp. Using it on a bard during an AOE pull is kind of a given for any ninja worth his salt.

    Just commenting I've had warrior tanks snub their nose at my goad when it seemed they needed it
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