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    Waeksyn's Avatar
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    Waekswys Styrmwyn
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    Bard Lv 60

    Thanks for the TP display!

    Thanks SE for implementing a display of TP for party members! This is great! Now I will get Goad from Ninjas on my Brd for all those heavy AOE pulls!!!

    Except, wait ... since implemented, I've had exactly ZERO ninjas give me goad, even when I have next to no TP at all. The last time, I even asked twice and nothing.

    Just a reminder to all ninjas that this is, indeed, one of the skills that you have. You could actually use it! Just a thought.
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    Aveira Teleri
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    Bad players will be bad players, regardless of the information they are presented.
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    Nawwh.

    Too busy for that.
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    M'kael Jin
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    I'll give bards goad when they learn how to play a single song.
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    Gilraen Bior
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    As a Bard you have access to Invigorate so I don't see the issue. Don't have Invigorate? Well, that's a problem you can easily fix. Personally I'd rather see Goad go to the tank. Yes, this is me, the Bard, saying Goad should go to the tank. I'm just a DD, my job is to kill things and sing songs. If I start going yellow I slow down on my output so the tank can get it back without spamming moves (unless it's something like a bee, then I go ahead and draw aggro as I dump everything in murdering it). I don't need Goad, and will never ask for it. But if you need Paeon then I'm perfectly fine obliging.
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    Odett Telos
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    Lamia
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Gilraen View Post
    As a Bard you have access to Invigorate so I don't see the issue. Don't have Invigorate? Well, that's a problem you can easily fix. Personally I'd rather see Goad go to the tank. Yes, this is me, the Bard, saying Goad should go to the tank. I'm just a DD, my job is to kill things and sing songs. If I start going yellow I slow down on my output so the tank can get it back without spamming moves (unless it's something like a bee, then I go ahead and draw aggro as I dump everything in murdering it). I don't need Goad, and will never ask for it. But if you need Paeon then I'm perfectly fine obliging.
    Invigorate will not be enough to keep up BRD's AoE TP consumption. If you're going to AoE to do more damage and resort to singing a Paeon because the NIN is too lazy to goad you and you reduce your own damage, then that defeats the purpose of AoEing in the first place. Even when you're not AoEing, if you're playing BRD correctly on 3 trash mobs and DoTing everything, your TP will get murdered as well.

    TLDR; pls goad your BRDs.
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    Gilraen Bior
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odett View Post
    TLDR; pls goad your BRDs.
    I never sing for myself, seems too self-serving and I still don't think I'm benefiting from it. And seriously, I've actually lost my temper at being Goaded during a dungeon where the tank was a marauder, they thrive on TP and having a few seconds of infinite amounts of it seem far more useful to them than giving it to me when I DO have Invigorate. With the change to Rain of Death I don't burn TP as badly during AoE attack spam as I used to as long as I can keep Venomous Bite and Windbite up. But this is all just me and my own preferences.
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    Aeon Rakshasa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilraen View Post
    I never sing for myself, seems too self-serving and I still don't think I'm benefiting from it. And seriously, I've actually lost my temper at being Goaded during a dungeon where the tank was a marauder, they thrive on TP and having a few seconds of infinite amounts of it seem far more useful to them than giving it to me when I DO have Invigorate. With the change to Rain of Death I don't burn TP as badly during AoE attack spam as I used to as long as I can keep Venomous Bite and Windbite up. But this is all just me and my own preferences.
    Dang because even if I do keep up those DoTs I never have enough TP during AOEing..always end up having to play for myself.
    And no, I don't use the coolest useless skill, Wide Volley.
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    Kakashi Hatake
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    Brynhildr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilraen View Post
    I never sing for myself, seems too self-serving and I still don't think I'm benefiting from it. And seriously, I've actually lost my temper at being Goaded during a dungeon where the tank was a marauder, they thrive on TP and having a few seconds of infinite amounts of it seem far more useful to them than giving it to me when I DO have Invigorate. With the change to Rain of Death I don't burn TP as badly during AoE attack spam as I used to as long as I can keep Venomous Bite and Windbite up. But this is all just me and my own preferences.
    I've had warriors tell me they need Goad the least, and that a DRK or PLD would need it more. As it stands use it and someone yells at you, don't use it and someone yells at you.
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    Gilraen Bior
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    Midgardsormr
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    Quote Originally Posted by m3eansean View Post
    I've had warriors tell me they need Goad the least, and that a DRK or PLD would need it more. As it stands use it and someone yells at you, don't use it and someone yells at you.
    Well, I like to think a person is smart. If I don't need Goad then it shouldn't be that much of a leap to use it on someone that does.
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