Message from actual new player

[Irana]

god forbid people use intended content and mechanics.

I NEVER cradfted in FFXI...and I would HATE this game if I was forced to take crafting up before leveling the stuff I like.

Sir, you are so wrong its not even funny.

[Betelgeuzah]

So before any new player can enjoy the game they have to level crafting? That makes sense...

Until the economy picks up, most likely.

That may be unreasonable, but devs can't just snap their fingers and everything falls into place when it comes to [this feature].

You're just coming off as an arrogant prick doling out shitty advice at this point

So let's keep spreading misconceptions then? You're smart.

If my advice was shitty, everyone would be aware of these things already. Instead we have people crying they can't level when it has never been easier.

[Kiroh]

So let's keep spreading misconceptions then? You're smart.

"There's nothing wrong with low levels because I said so, because I didn't have any problems with them."

No, let's just keep ignoring everyone else and create a game for Betelgeuzah to play, because he's enjoying it and so should everyone else who doesn't.

[TunaTime]

If they tested the content before releasing it they could have dealt with these sort of things.

I general I pro-patch 1.19. I just don't like that the early levels scare away new players. I don't mind that going from level 1 - 10 can be done in a couple of hours. New players needs to be properly introduced to how the game works or most of them won't play the game. With the upcoming PS2 release SE needs to able to keep new players playing the game or the PS3 release will fail together with the entire game.

[Quanta]

Betelgeuzah, it's time to stop posting. You're just coming off as an arrogant prick doling out shitty advice at this point, and there are enough of those on the forums as it is since the patch hit.

[Gramul]

Betelgeuzah, it's time to stop posting. You're just coming off as an arrogant prick doling out shitty advice at this point, and there are enough of those on the forums as it is since the patch hit.

I think he's just as frustrated as you are. He's frustrated at the community for being so blissfully ignorant about the nature of the patch and the inability of the community to adapt to a new set of gameplay restrictions and features.

And you're frustrated because it seems like no matter what, some people are so stubbornly set in their praise of such frustrating and boring features that they come off as being stuck in some sort of ancient way of thinking where dull grind counts as a viable feature. Like they don't want the game to evolve or support the meatier parts of the game and instead fall in favor with chewing on the bones.

From what I can tell.

[Kiroh]

I think he's just as frustrated as you are. He's frustrated at the community for being so blissfully ignorant about the nature of the patch and the inability of the community to adapt to a new set of gameplay restrictions and features.

And you're frustrated because it seems like no matter what, some people are so stubbornly set in their praise of such frustrating and boring features that they come off as being stuck in some sort of ancient way of thinking where dull grind counts as a viable feature. Like they don't want the game to evolve or support the meatier parts of the game and instead fall in favor with chewing on the bones.

From what I can tell.

Oddly enough, I actually love this patch. I get great xp, I always have a party because I'm in an awesome linkshell, and I've made tons of gil. Hell, I went from 47 to 49 and a half today alone and I spent the majority (easily 80% of my time in game) of my day doing Bowl of Embers Hard mode.

I'm just disappointed that lower level players have been left to figure it out and fend for themselves so to speak.

[Agoven]

All games have learning curves MMOs have huge ones. You just gotta be patient till you figure things out. Nobody becomes amazing over night. That and if you just recently started this patch even for veterans makes this game like a whole new game.

[Kiroh]

All games have learning curves MMOs have huge ones. You just gotta be patient till you figure things out. Nobody becomes amazing over night. That and if you just recently started this patch even for veterans makes this game like a whole new game.

The problem is that a lot of people are just going to walk away, and that's a problem if SE wants to attract more customers later. Especially because SE is rather notorious even in the MMO world for extremely high learning curves. Most people aren't going to sit around for 20 or 30 levels waiting for the curve to even out.

[Quanta]

I think he's just as frustrated as you are. He's frustrated at the community for being so blissfully ignorant about the nature of the patch and the inability of the community to adapt to a new set of gameplay restrictions and features.

And you're frustrated because it seems like no matter what, some people are so stubbornly set in their praise of such frustrating and boring features that they come off as being stuck in some sort of ancient way of thinking where dull grind counts as a viable feature. Like they don't want the game to evolve or support the meatier parts of the game and instead fall in favor with chewing on the bones.

From what I can tell.

What frustrates me most is seeing people complain about not being able to kill anything, even at their own level, and the only thing they're being told is "You're doing something wrong." The immediate reaction is to assume that the individual is using the wrong gear, and if that turns out to be false, they're pretty much out of ideas at that point. We had a guy in our LS earlier today who quit to go to the Besaid server because the advice being given to him by a guy in our LS was essentially "Check your gear," "You're fighting the wrong mobs," "You need to do chains," "You're not playing right." You could tell both of them were getting frustrated because the experienced player didn't seem to get that the inexperienced player might not be as proficient as they were in regards to what abilities to equip and when and how to use them, and the inexperienced player was making this abundantly clear. "You're doing something wrong." It's retarded.

Instead of simply telling people that they're "doing something wrong," you need to figure out just what's going wrong, especially if their gear and such already checks out. Are they using food? Do they have the right abilities? What kind of mobs are they fighting? Are there better mobs that they could be fighting in another area? Enough generalizations; they're useless in diagnosing the real issues.

Edit:

Everyone who plays the game right shouldn't have problems at all. In the meantime, those who play wrong will face issues. Yes, I think we should ignore those who play the game wrong, aside from offering advice which they then choose to ignore.

This shit. This shit right here. Stop that.