Message from actual new player

[ZakarnRosewood]

I am sorry to hear so many people upset at the balancing of a brand new patch that hasnt been out for even a week yet. SE has said, after this patch, the game is only 50% there (the state where they want it to be for PS3 release and charging) i dont know if you saw the length of the patch notes for this recent patch but it was quite extensive and if you expected a patch that changed so many things (abolition of ranks and phys levels, major changes to the combat, new areas, new armor upgrading system, materia, etc) to be perfect, your expectations are a little high. this game had issues from the get go and if you look at where it was to where it is now and the vision they have for the future, i think it is worth being patient for.
SE is already aware of some balancing issues and there were parts of the 1.19 patch that got postponed to 1.19a. if you need that instant satisfaction i'm sure you will be quite happy playing WoW, Rifts, Aion, etc. it annoys me to see posts like these. despite what you may think, we are all playing an open beta, a work in progress. expect changes to come in stages, provide positive feedback and realize they need to prioritize their fixes, they cant do everything all at once. i suggest, rather than the rage quit, post angry comments, then leave: maybe identify the core issue you are having, post your findings, your recommendation for a fix, then quietly step back and watch for patch notes for when your issue is being addressed. when it gets addressed come back, test it out, and see if it meets your expectations and if it dosent, repeat the process. but if you dont like the game, arent willing to wait, or think its the worst piece of crap ever, why would you take the time to announce it on the forums? when you take a big nasty crap, do you pull it out of the tiolet and show your friends and family how bad it is? no, you flush it and walk away.

Constructive advise is key.

[Rane]

when you take a big nasty crap, do you pull it out of the tiolet and show your friends and family how bad it is? no, you flush it and walk away.

Constructive advise is key.

Nice.

(still laughing)

[FireHero]

I been playing 2 weeks I was able to solo enemy's 10 ranks higher then me now I struggle to kill mobs 2 levels lower then me so how dose this work?

Since I find hard to find a party any way with the useless party system on the game to start with.

So now when I was having a great easy time ranking up at a good pace I now spend hours just to get 1000exp!

Yes the linking and chaining to get more exp is good but it is not when I lose most my health fighting the first one if I did chain or link I be dead on the floor.

Doing leves solo is now imposable for some classes and is no fun at all!

And yea I tried loads of different things to level up and all I can find is killing mobs 5 levels under me!

The worst class I seen this with is archer it is no longer a solo class at such low ranks its weak and slow and lasts 5 seconds and costs to much for arrows!

Don't forget its stupid hard to make low rank Gear and then no 1 sells it ether cause they don't need it any more so its not made!

[Narmito]

Hi all,

I bought this game and played it for the first time 2 weeks ago. I've been on every day since (loving it!), and just experienced the patch. As you can see, I'm a level 20ish archer and marauder. I've played a few hours since the patch hit, and I'm completely disappointed. I wasn't even attacking mobs much higher than me before the patch, but occasionally I'd hit something 1 or 2 levels above and I'd make it through alive. Now, I get my ass kicked by mobs 2 levels below me and anything higher it's hopeless. All my hand picked gear (mostly by helpful players) isn't helping at all and the game just generally seems way HARDER. Harder than it should be..it just kills the pacing. Sorry, but I play video games for fun, not to be bored and frustrated. I was pretty happy right before the patch with the level speed, combat flow and yeah, I died now and then when I did something stupid, but now the game seems excessively hard. So all you high-level people with lots of experience, I'm glad you are having fun, but I'm going to go play Aion now. I suspect a lot of other new people like me feel the same way. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with this patch at all...it just simply made the game no-fun for me as a new player around my level. I've been severely nerfed playing other MMOs too, and it just kills the fun for me when that happens. It's like someone took away half of everything you've been building up and working hard at. Normally, that is called a punishment.

And yes, I've done nothing but group with other new players since the patch. We get our asses kicked constantly, even when 3 of us gang up on a mob 2 levels above us. Both of my friends logged out with a long goodbye and quit, both claiming they might be back after 1.20, but probably not with GW2 and SWTOR coming out. So there I was alone, at level 20 with crappy gear and nobody to play with surrounded by monsters that I can't kill. Yuck. I guess there is a form of permadeath now in this game after all, in the form of this pretty digital purgatory I found myself standing in.

Well today i lvl up a marauder until lvl 9 and i loved the game as it is , it is a real chalenging game something that it wasnt before sometimes in the groups you didn't have the chance to hit the foe because it was already dead in 5 sec

i don't know what kind of player you are but also many friends that left this game for Rift they came back because i told them to check the 1.19 and everyone said that the game its for the first time challenging ...

well i dont know what SE is gonna do but i hope that he will keep the challenge even at the first lvl 1

you said that you liked the game as it was before really you are mmo player and you liked to solo mob 3-10 lvl more than you >.>

let me tell you something for example

if you can kill solo a dodo 19 lvl and you are 10 ...what is gonna be if you try it with a group in a leve ?

do you know how many times it was so boring to kill something in 10-30 sec with a group ... that's not challenge you don't feel the feeling of ''death'' you don't even try to have a tactical strategical battle

i don't want you to leve really we need more new players ...but also i don't want this game to be like 1.18 it wasn't challenge it was super easy >

if i was here all this time it was i believed that the game everyday goes forward ...and you asked to go backward ...

[Denmo]

There's a large elephant in the room that people seem to be ignoring. It's not necessarily the difficulty that's the problem here.

It's the ability to form parties.

Why are we soloing even though the mobs are more difficult, and we get more exp in a party? Because getting a party together outside a linkshell is a righteous pain in the ass. Shouting, shouting, and more shouting. And since shouting can only be heard in one specific area, there's no guarantee that you'll reach the people that would actually want to party with you. For all you know they're probably out soloing. I mean who'd want to wait in Ul'dah for someone else to start shouting?

And NOBODY checks the party search feature. And even if they did, they'd have to be very specific in their searching or a result won't show. That coupled with no global searching and no party invite flags leave many of us without a linkshell or high level job stranded. Just try to form a level 15 party for Shposhae. Go on, try it.

[Narmito]

There's a large elephant in the room that people seem to be ignoring. It's not necessarily the difficulty that's the problem here.

It's the ability to form parties.

Why are we soloing even though the mobs are more difficult, and we get more exp in a party? Because getting a party together outside a linkshell is a righteous pain in the ass. Shouting, shouting, and more shouting. And since shouting can only be heard in one specific area, there's no guarantee that you'll reach the people that would actually want to party with you. For all you know they're probably out soloing. I mean who'd want to wait in Ul'dah for someone else to start shouting?

And NOBODY checks the party search feature. And even if they did, they'd have to be very specific in their searching or a result won't show. That coupled with no global searching and no party invite flags leave many of us without a linkshell or high level job stranded. Just try to form a level 15 party for Shposhae. Go on, try it.

you have right but don't forget that the game is in revamp mode everyday they are trying to fix things so we must wait everyone that coming to FFXIV must know that he is gonna a play a ''beta'' game, a game that is in revamp mode ...so if he find a good Linkshell to join i m sure that he will find a lot of other players to group ...like me

do You think that SE doesn't know about the party search system ?

everyone needs something
more armors more jobs better battle system ...more mobs ...mailing system ...AH etc

they allready know it (many post in the lodestone and in the live at 4 oct ) we must also know that is in revamp state they already know what we don't like ...they work for us and they are trying to keep us here...but also they are humans....not robots ...if we want we can't find a way to play with others if we can't then lets find another game until the game is like the way we want

the players of ffxiv has two options ...they are staying and play the game with every patch ( htey give time to devs ) ...or they know that the game is not ready for them and before feel bored ,they are leaving for another game until the FFXIV is ready if after long time they don't care anymore about ffxiv then actually never care about it and never understood really that the game was in revamp mode ...

thats the truth for us and for the Devs

[Xmbei]

You had issues because you were fighting things above your level. As has been stated many times on these forums, that doesn't work so well any more. Go do a leve at the 30 camp with 3*, the mobs will be 36, and you'll be fine.

i like your sig lol

[Ultima]

I've lurked since 2010 when I got 14, waiting for the changes, so on the 4th, I finally played with 1.19, And I'm having no trouble leveling up or anything, infact the only flaws in 14 I can see that aren't being addressed/don't need to be is. Lack of AH, the insane gil cost for new gear. Other than that I'm lovin' 14, and I plan to bring a friend into the game hopefully when the jobs get added, G'job to Yoshi-P and his team for fixin' up 14, I remember logging in 2010 and I shuddered at Tanaka's 5 year failure of a creation.

P.S. I want to be able to jump, jumping off cliffs or jumping off the top of Limsa would be awesome to land in the water.

[Ultima]

Hi all,

I bought this game and played it for the first time 2 weeks ago. I've been on every day since (loving it!), and just experienced the patch. As you can see, I'm a level 20ish archer and marauder. I've played a few hours since the patch hit, and I'm completely disappointed. I wasn't even attacking mobs much higher than me before the patch, but occasionally I'd hit something 1 or 2 levels above and I'd make it through alive. Now, I get my ass kicked by mobs 2 levels below me and anything higher it's hopeless. All my hand picked gear (mostly by helpful players) isn't helping at all and the game just generally seems way HARDER. Harder than it should be..it just kills the pacing. Sorry, but I play video games for fun, not to be bored and frustrated. I was pretty happy right before the patch with the level speed, combat flow and yeah, I died now and then when I did something stupid, but now the game seems excessively hard. So all you high-level people with lots of experience, I'm glad you are having fun, but I'm going to go play Aion now. I suspect a lot of other new people like me feel the same way. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with this patch at all...it just simply made the game no-fun for me as a new player around my level. I've been severely nerfed playing other MMOs too, and it just kills the fun for me when that happens. It's like someone took away half of everything you've been building up and working hard at. Normally, that is called a punishment.

And yes, I've done nothing but group with other new players since the patch. We get our asses kicked constantly, even when 3 of us gang up on a mob 2 levels above us. Both of my friends logged out with a long goodbye and quit, both claiming they might be back after 1.20, but probably not with GW2 and SWTOR coming out. So there I was alone, at level 20 with crappy gear and nobody to play with surrounded by monsters that I can't kill. Yuck. I guess there is a form of permadeath now in this game after all, in the form of this pretty digital purgatory I found myself standing in.

Maybe you just don't know how to play with the classes, or you could do some crafting classes and get better gear.. or just I don't know, don't try to jump a mob higher level than you. If someone ragequits because a game is hard, then I guess only the easy mode embrace of SWTOR will save them, and they'll probably get kicked by GW 2 and come crawling back.. -Yawns- 14 isn't that hard, just abuse every tactic possible, it's not brain surgery.

[Bled]

If you DON'T think that was 'effective' solo, you never tried it. I often leveled faster than dunes parties myself. And of course it's not as good as a good party, are you retarded?
Sometimes people don't have time to organize a party or just feel like grinding it out solo for a bit, it was possible to level and do so at a decent rate without having to organize anything, how exactly is that not effective? Because it's not the absolute best? Please.

Effective and most effective are not the same thing, and hell... due to the nature of the game at the time often you would be able to be more effective soloing by virtue of the fact that you didn't have to wait nor did you have to worry about getting bad players who could slow you down far more than anything. Remember those parties back in the day where you came out with negative exp because your party sucked more than a Thread Leech? I sure do.

For your information there is a difference between possible and effective but you seem to not grasp common logic sorry.

No I never had a hard time getting a party or playing with incompetent players, i had a good LS... try making friends it would pry help you out. I specified I was speaking of the beginning of XI where i never had a problem finding parties English or Japanese. Could you grind off of other mobs yeah was it effective no.. effective leveling was partying and if you were social enough or playing in the beginning you should have had no problems. However you sound like a person who is pretensions and non social.

Ignorant post is ignorant.