Message from actual new player

[Agoven]

All games have learning curves MMOs have huge ones. You just gotta be patient till you figure things out. Nobody becomes amazing over night. That and if you just recently started this patch even for veterans makes this game like a whole new game.

[Kiroh]

All games have learning curves MMOs have huge ones. You just gotta be patient till you figure things out. Nobody becomes amazing over night. That and if you just recently started this patch even for veterans makes this game like a whole new game.

The problem is that a lot of people are just going to walk away, and that's a problem if SE wants to attract more customers later. Especially because SE is rather notorious even in the MMO world for extremely high learning curves. Most people aren't going to sit around for 20 or 30 levels waiting for the curve to even out.

[Agoven]

The problem is that a lot of people are just going to walk away, and that's a problem if SE wants to attract more customers later. Especially because SE is rather notorious even in the MMO world for extremely high learning curves. Most people aren't going to sit around for 20 or 30 levels waiting for the curve to even out.

The learning curve I was speaking of is playing the game in general. There are so many systems in this game...and there are so many changes...

The game will attract new players just fine...especially those waiting for PS3 release.

The problem most people have is the mode of which they are thinking. They thinking patches are just making small changes. SEs patches for FFXIV have been essentially we rewriting this game from scratch patches. Those major sweeping changes are coming in pockets until that's done. Yoshida said they only at about the 50% mark. It's been a year...it'll take many many more months b4 it's where Yoshida wants the game. We should all expect the changes...veterans of the game already do...newbies well I welcome you all to the trials and tribulations.

I do hope SE doesn't look too deeply into these forums. Complaints really come from the minority. If you see any forum structure out there it's always people complaining. Look at Youtube...LOL

In any event negative posts affect people especially the people working on the product with passion and we should encourage them. Yoshida's team is doing things right...People just need to calm down. This is why I wish the game would be pay to play now. And then when it's ready for prime time and PS3 they'd give a few months free to let the crowd see the game in it's glory.

[Sylvari]

The problem is that a lot of people are just going to walk away, and that's a problem if SE wants to attract more customers later. Especially because SE is rather notorious even in the MMO world for extremely high learning curves. Most people aren't going to sit around for 20 or 30 levels waiting for the curve to even out.

Your exactly right, in this day and age MMO's like WoW that are so blindly easy are what makes the coin... The larger amount of gamers from the newer generation are not used to things being hard... I've seen my nephews complain about a game being impossible to beat, and too hard... where i have just walked up grabbed the controller and after 5 mins of getting familiar with the game i just blast thru... Now days i look forward to games like dark souls cause i know there's gonna be a challenge and that there will be a learning curve... i don't like to pick up a game and have complete understanding and "1337" skills at it after 5 mins... I actually welcome this patch, but at the same time i think 1-20 should be about teaching you how the game works and giving you a direction... a steep learning curve with today's gamers is a major buzz kill...

[Misha]

Your exactly right, in this day and age MMO's like WoW that are so blindly easy are what makes the coin... The larger amount of gamers from the newer generation are not used to things being hard... I've seen my nephews complain about a game being impossible to beat, and too hard... where i have just walked up grabbed the controller and after 5 mins of getting familiar with the game i just blast thru... Now days i look forward to games like dark souls cause i know there's gonna be a challenge and that there will be a learning curve... i don't like to pick up a game and have complete understanding and "1337" skills at it after 5 mins... I actually welcome this patch, but at the same time i think 1-20 should be about teaching you how the game works and giving you a direction... a steep learning curve with today's gamers is a major buzz kill...

Exactly my thoughts... I can't even stand playing games on anything below hard or very hard difficulties these days. (Even then, most games are an utter joke LoL) People just wanna zerg through everything in all games nowadays, heck even critics mostly play on easy in games yet they'll actually evaluate that aspect in the games they review >.< There's simply some stuff you don't "see" when playing stuff easier and it dumbs you down so much. These people want quick and easy with no learning curve and mixing that with people like myself who actually don't wanna play another braindead mmo like WoW... well... let's just say these 2 crowds don't really mix xD

Aside from that... don't expect starting gear to last you to 1-20 anymore! Also notice that equipping higher level gear now pretty much makes it so it gives almost no stats at all!!! May as well be naked >.< LoL Also it should be common sense that with a game with cross class skills you'd want to aquire your cures and buffs first to ease said battles :P