Message from actual new player

[Kiroh]

Its funny that even when your options are so limited at that level, you still managed to screw it up. You don't need gear beyond level 1 nor skills beyond level 2 to handle everything the game throws at you at that stage. Blaming the game when the problem is at the other side of the screen is hilarious but understandable.

New players can't tap the same resources you do. They have essentially 0 gil to start with, unlike you. They haven't experienced the game yet, so they have no bias when it comes to playing it. You on the other hand, tried to just do what was familiar to you and failed horribly at it. Don't blame me.



You: Nobody can level I couldn't get to 5 by playing the game wrong plz fix it SE QQ

Me: It's easier than ever to level up to 20's while supplying yourself, and here's my experience to prove it.

If that isn't relevant to the discussion, nothing is. You spread misconceptions, I try to correct them as best as I can. It's a tough task however, I'll give you that much.

Me : It's rather difficult for new players to level early on, I realize it's an issue that SE may not want to deal with but if it's not fun for new players the game is going to have problems later on.

You : YOU SUXXOR, WAI LEVEL 47 TALKIN ABOUT LOW LEVEL XPZ?!?! YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING STFU.

Yeah, productive discussion on your part indeed.

I realize relevant may be a difficult concept for you to grasp, but please for our sakes, try.

(My level, skill, personal bias, and previous game experience are not relevant when a new player who has NONE OF THESE is the one who started the thread drawing attention to the issue in the first place.)

[Bled]

This should be FFXIV's box art: http://www.unwinnable.com/wp-content...hammer-40K.gif

[TunaTime]

Hopefully SE will realize that new players aren't enjoying leveling as it is now and changing "the beginning". I'm not saying that patch 1.19 is bad, I actually enjoy it at the mid 20's, but level 1 - 5 / 10 could be changed into a "tutorial" type of quest where you got abit of gil, exp and gear.

I'm fearing that if things stays like this the PS3 launch will be a big fail.

[Xeno]

You joined the game at the wrong time Q_Q

[Aion]

argh,I wanna try to create new char,to test the lower level..but I wanna max my GLA ASAP

[Betelgeuzah]

You : YOU SUXXOR, WAI LEVEL 47 TALKIN ABOUT LOW LEVEL XPZ?!?! YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING STFU.

Ignoring all the facts I laid out to the table to support that statement, of course.

It took me 15 minutes to get from level 1 to 5, in which time I also earned 60k worth of mats to sell

leves that send you across half the world to kill 2 mobs just to earn 100xp and 200gil at the end of the task is not as effective ---- killing the dozens of easy-to-kill targets crowded in one place that earn you enough EXP to level up with ease up to level ten, not to mention drop a lot of good mats to be used for acquiring currency at the same time

This is me, doing what you can't, easily, efficiently, and productively. While at the same time contradicting, and proving wrong, your statement

It's rather difficult for new players to level early on

Which, considering my experiences (not affected by bias, misconceptions or plentiful resources, for reasons which I also laid down beforehand) is a false statement.

Lastly,

My level, skill, personal bias, and previous game experience are not relevant when a new player who has NONE OF THESE is the one who started the thread drawing attention to the issue in the first place.

They are, indeed, relevant considering you are incorrect, in both playing the game and analyzing the actual shortcomings of the lower level experience.

Instead, one could draw attention to the real problems of low level experience, for example, lack of tutorial explaining how the Marketplace and Retainers function, the now-useless level 1 leves drawing attention away from the actual mechanics of leveling post-1.19 and the currently short supply of low level equipment, even though it is both easy and cheap to make due to the changes. Although most of these issues are a part of learning the game mechanics and not part of the actual game mechanics (which are fine, as demonstrated above).

You know what's productive and relevant? Analyzing the game correctly without letting previous bias determine how the game is played and drawing conclusions from that, false experience.

[Isaaru]

It really is a horrible time for new players to join specifically because how the damage formulas were changed to revolve around gear and materia, and since materia just came out I can't say it will be fun for 2-4 weeks.

[Betelgeuzah]

It really is a horrible time for new players to join specifically because how the damage formulas were changed to revolve around gear and materia, and since materia just came out I can't say it will be fun for 2-4 weeks.

Materia is not in any shape or form relevant at low levels. Gear is cheap to make and mats easy to come by.

[TunaTime]

Materia is not in any shape or form relevant at low levels. Gear is cheap to make and mats easy to come by.

So before any new player can enjoy the game they have to level crafting? That makes sense...

[Quanta]

Betelgeuzah, it's time to stop posting. You're just coming off as an arrogant prick doling out shitty advice at this point, and there are enough of those on the forums as it is since the patch hit.