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    Jhin S'
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    Dark Knight Lv 70

    DRK viable in end-game content

    Hello!

    Was wondering, how viable are DRKs in end game content, namley Alexander Savage as main tank?

    Any extra tips regarding that or any other tanks jobs are also welcome.

    Would love to hear from experinced peeps.
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    Ashelia Ferron
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    Considering that the two top raiding groups in the world were using DRK/WAR, quite viable
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    Didnt know the 2 groups who cleared Savage turn 4 used a DRK, thats great to know, thank you!
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    Freyja Redgold
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    DRK is currently the best MT for end game raiding. Tank busters are magical and DRK has the advantage of having Dark Mind for that which is awesome. DRK also provides MNK's INT down debuff which permits to take a NIN and a DRG as your melees which results in more raid DPS than taking a MNK in any of the 2 slots. And DRK is also the one who does the most DPS while main tanking in tanking stance and current end game fights are not joking when it comes to DPS checks, so having both tanks who can beat the shit out of the boss is a huge advantage. DRK just lacks raid utility outside of Delirium (and Reprisal is there but clunky and too RNG based to be really reliable) but everything else about the job is really good.
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    Seku Halvone
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    DRK is good in current end game meta due to it's high magical defensive abilities. If you're looking to MT, you should also level up PLD because if the next set of bosses end up being physical there is a good chance that PLD will replace DRK. Assuming you're getting into a hard core raiding group.
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    Will Brannigan
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    Reprisal is actually pretty reliable once you get used to a fight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brannigan View Post
    Reprisal is actually pretty reliable once you get used to a fight.
    You can't get so used to a fight that you make Reprisal have 100% uptime. It's pretty unreliable. At best it's up when you need it to be up (tankbuster), at worst you have to forgo using it so you can force proc it via Dark Dance when you need it, which means even less uptime on reprisal and having to save Dark Dance.

    The skill is simply unreliable, especially compared to its WAR counterpart, at least they stack.
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    Syzygia Coahcuhhar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lawson_Grey View Post
    You can't get so used to a fight that you make Reprisal have 100% uptime. It's pretty unreliable. At best it's up when you need it to be up (tankbuster), at worst you have to forgo using it so you can force proc it via Dark Dance when you need it, which means even less uptime on reprisal and having to save Dark Dance.

    The skill is simply unreliable, especially compared to its WAR counterpart, at least they stack.
    This is not actually how these abilities work. DRK's Path counterpart is Delirium. The whole reason they even have Reprisal is so they can make up for Delirium being only magic. Reprisal is actually more like a weaker, longer-lasting, raid-wide Inner Beast than anything. When you use it/look at it like that, the design makes a lot more sense. In terms of preventing damage to the raid, DRK and WAR are actually averaging out to very equal footing, so long as you let the DRK MT.
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    Seravi Edalborez
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lawson_Grey View Post
    You can't get so used to a fight that you make Reprisal have 100% uptime. It's pretty unreliable. At best it's up when you need it to be up (tankbuster), at worst you have to forgo using it so you can force proc it via Dark Dance when you need it, which means even less uptime on reprisal and having to save Dark Dance.

    The skill is simply unreliable, especially compared to its WAR counterpart, at least they stack.
    You don't need 100% uptime. You described the exact situation that it actually matters to have it up for: tankbusters. Any other uptime is great but not required.
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    Erim Nelhah
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    Dancer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Seku View Post
    DRK is good in current end game meta due to it's high magical defensive abilities. If you're looking to MT, you should also level up PLD because if the next set of bosses end up being physical there is a good chance that PLD will replace DRK. Assuming you're getting into a hard core raiding group.
    If SE doesn't ease up on the Savage DPS checks and/or make it so that tanks have to eat a physical tankbuster more often than Shadow Wall will be available (which may or may not actually be feasible due to Sentinel having the same CD and Sheltron being tricky to time for that), I don't see PLD replacing DRK. Even if they did do the physical damage thing, if DPS checks remain as tight as they are, I think we'd be more likely to see WAR/WAR comps than PLD/WAR (unless LB requirements dictate otherwise).

    --Erim Nelhah
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    Dancer is a physical hybrid melee/range class, not a true ranged class. I love it.

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