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    Why do Ninja and Monk use different gear?

    1) STR does nothing for Ninja. DEX does nothing for Monk.
    2) They already just use recolors of the same set.
    3) Pre-ninja monk gear had dexterity added to it too.


    It just feels kinda stupid that melee DPS items make up like 40% of the drop pool. Ideally they'd shove dragoon on a set with someone else as well, but they probably don't want to give them tank defense.

    tank
    healer
    caster
    ranger
    ninja
    dragoon
    monk

    This is lame.
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    You're right.. it should be
    everyone separated

    So my glamours don't interfere with each other.
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    Origionally they were suppose to, and ninja was suppose to use str as it's main dmg stat. However, devs saw debates about if ninja would be str or dex based and decided to change them at the last min to a dex based melee dps. You can see this in that for all post 50 gear ninja can wear from before they were added, is shared with mnk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gralna View Post
    You can see this in that for all post 50 gear ninja can wear from before they were added, is shared with mnk.
    No the reason they share is because they needed to give them some sort of gear because they were not about to make full gearsets - they just added DEX and NIN/ROG to the MNK gears for that time. And MNK fit better for the melee aspect of NIN than BRD did.
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    They may add samurai on mnk though...
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    Quote Originally Posted by AltanRapsied View Post
    They may add samurai on mnk though...
    they should add SAM to DRG. combine MNK and NIN again.

    yes, it would be ideal to have gear for every job but since the dev resources are not available, it makes sense visually to pair them up that way.

    what i would like to see for shared gear with 3 new jobs.

    WAR/DRK - heavy armor - like Binding Coil, Odin
    PLD/RDM - plated robes - like Second Coil, CT, WoD
    MNK/NIN - like CT
    DRG/SAM - light armor, chain mail
    BRD/MCH - vest, shirts
    BLM/SMN - robes
    WHM/AST - robes
    SCH/ some healer - half gowns/robes
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    Quote Originally Posted by ruskie View Post
    No the reason they share is because they needed to give them some sort of gear because they were not about to make full gearsets - they just added DEX and NIN/ROG to the MNK gears for that time. And MNK fit better for the melee aspect of NIN than BRD did.
    If they had planned to make Nin dex based from the start, it would of been much easier to have them share gear with brd, instead of having them share with mnk, and adding dex to all mnk gear.
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    we don't need 4 dex users that's why...

    nin brd mch dex

    drg, mnk str,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adventica6 View Post
    we don't need 4 dex users that's why...

    nin brd mch dex

    drg, mnk str,
    That's only three though. Gear sets right now could easily be

    Tank
    Healer
    Ranged
    Caster
    Mnk/Nin
    Drg

    That still leaves dragoon alone, but at least monk and ninja can be combined without changing much of anything. Just make sure the next class that's introduced uses DRG gear.
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    Gonna be funny in 4.0...

    Tank- PLD/WAR/DRK
    Healer- WHM/SCH/AST
    Tanklike- DRG/SAM?
    STR Melee- MNK/SAM?
    DEX Melee- NIN/RDM?
    INT Melee?- RDM?
    DEX Ranged- BRD/MCH
    Caster- SMN/BLM

    Really though they need to better consolidate the DPS drops, since DEX is useless to DRG/MNK and STR useless to NIN/BRD/MCH, they technically could do just 4 sets (Tank, Healer, Caster, PhysicalDPS)... aside from oddball DRG and it's Phys/Mag defenses so different...
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