We should ally with the Garleans

[Theodric]

Yeah, as horrific as that sort of thing is...it isn't something common with Garlemald's army and it's something that happens within Eorzea as well. In fact, there's a lot of forced slavery that goes on within Eorzea. Ishgardian's often abuse their lofty positions to have their way with those that catch their eye. (I believe the DRK quests heavily touch upon that) and in the ROG quests it's revealed that there's a lot of unrest, murder and crime going on within Limsa's streets.

[ChazNatlo]

Yeah, as horrific as that sort of thing is...it isn't something common with Garlemald's army and it's something that happens within Eorzea as well. In fact, there's a lot of forced slavery that goes on within Eorzea. Ishgardian's often abuse their lofty positions to have their way with those that catch their eye. (I believe the DRK quests heavily touch upon that) and in the ROG quests it's revealed that there's a lot of unrest, murder and crime going on within Limsa's streets.

I still need to get to the Dark Knight quest, so I can't comment on that, but for the Rogues quests, those are very pointedly people breaking the law. You can't really blame Limsa as an entity for that. They are taking pains to cut that shit out.

By contrast, every single one of the Garleans we have seen doing things we disapprove of are people they have chosen to act as representative of themselves. Regardless of whether Livia was acting on or off script when she went all Chuck Norris of that defenseless Sylph, or any other member who hasn't specifically gone rogue behaving in some distasteful way or doing something which on Earth would be a war crime, they are representing the Garlean Empire.

[VargasVermillion]

By contrast, every single one of the Garleans we have seen doing things we disapprove of are people they have chosen to act as representative of themselves. Regardless of whether Livia was acting on or off script when she went all Chuck Norris of that defenseless Sylph, or any other member who hasn't specifically gone rogue behaving in some distasteful way or doing something which on Earth would be a war crime, they are representing the Garlean Empire.

Livia seemed to be the loose canon of the group, the other two tribunes did what they did because Gaius ordered them to but I think Livia might of broken a few boundaries since she may of had 'something to prove'. Although Rhitahtyn did himself a disservice by calling off his men and Nero didn't really do wrong by Gaius but he did let grudges get to his head.