We should ally with the Garleans

[Teryaani]

A number of you just want to play the badguys. Some of the people arguing seem to think that the Garleans are perfectly justified, or that we only see the worst of them. ((With the odd good soldier thrown in.))

Some of us just want to watch the world burn...no wait. We want to watch our enemies burn while we rule the world.

People like playing the Sith or the Horde because their story is more morally complicated or because it frees them to behave more badly. Either way they likely end up with the better story overall. We haven't had many morally dubious moments in this game because we are a Hero (capital H) and that's probably how it's going to continue.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

Some of us just want to watch the world burn...no wait. We want to watch our enemies burn while we rule the world.

People like playing the Sith or the Horde because their story is more morally complicated or because it frees them to behave more badly. Either way they likely end up with the better story overall. We haven't had many morally dubious moments in this game because we are a Hero (capital H) and that's probably how it's going to continue.

As I said previously, there's nothing shown about the Garleans that can gather any form of sympathy for me. I have more sympathy for the heretics of Isghard. I also think most people who want to play a bad guy just want to be one for the sake of doing whatever they want cause "lawl i'm evil!" I think a certain GTA5 character was made for those kinds of people.

[Teryaani]

As I said previously, there's nothing shown about the Garleans that can gather any form of sympathy for me. I have more sympathy for the heretics of Isghard. I also think most people who want to play a bad guy just want to be one for the sake of doing whatever they want cause "lawl i'm evil!" I think a certain GTA5 character was made for those kinds of people.

Just so I'm clear, I'm not advocating pro-garlean. In addition to their uniforms being sub-par for an evil empire, their leadership are far too in the mold of cackling evil stereotypes to be enjoyable.

I'd like the chance to have alternate choices in game and have them actually mean something. The chance to be even a bit more amoral would be nice with all the consequences that brings. That doesn't mean going full Trevor.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

Just so I'm clear, I'm not advocating pro-garlean. In addition to their uniforms being sub-par for an evil empire, their leadership are far too in the mold of cackling evil stereotypes to be enjoyable.

I'd like the chance to have alternate choices in game and have them actually mean something. The chance to be even a bit more amoral would be nice with all the consequences that brings. That doesn't mean going full Trevor.

It's pretty much far too late to have any form of "choice" in this game unless Square's next Final Fantasy lets you pick sides from the get go. Even then, most Final Fantasy stories are linear anyway, so I don't see that trend changing anytime soon.

[Teryaani]

It's pretty much far too late to have any form of "choice" in this game unless Square's next Final Fantasy lets you pick sides from the get go. Even then, most Final Fantasy stories are linear anyway, so I don't see that trend changing anytime soon.

I get that and I also get that the development required to keep a karma system of some kind is pretty onerous. I still really want it. Even just a single quest chain that has different outcomes or a quest chain that points out that we may not be always on the side of angels.

[Xanikk999]

It's pretty much far too late to have any form of "choice" in this game unless Square's next Final Fantasy lets you pick sides from the get go. Even then, most Final Fantasy stories are linear anyway, so I don't see that trend changing anytime soon.

Maybe in the sense of something as dramatic as working for the empire. I think though they could give us more choices in quests though rather than simple dialogue choices that lead to the same result anyway.