We should ally with the Garleans

[Moonleg]

Here's my conspiracy theory about the Garleans:

The Emperor is a primal. He doesn't suck up as much aether as other primals, at least not from his surroundings - but he is the reason the Garleans can't wield magic because he absorps all of that energy from his entire empire.

And he wants more. Like all the primals, he wants more and more followers, more and more power. In true Highlander fashion he wants to be the only primal left alive, and the others must be destroyed because they suck up the energy HE wants for himself.

So yeah. 4.0 we are going to throw down with the ultimate primal.

[Eidolon]

So yeah. 4.0 we are going to throw down with the ultimate primal.

"You are NOT prepared!"

*one expansion later*

"oh :c"

[myahele]

Here's my conspiracy theory about the Garleans:

The Emperor is a primal. He doesn't suck up as much aether as other primals, at least not from his surroundings - but he is the reason the Garleans can't wield magic because he absorps all of that energy from his entire empire.

And he wants more. Like all the primals, he wants more and more followers, more and more power. In true Highlander fashion he wants to be the only primal left alive, and the others must be destroyed because they suck up the energy HE wants for himself.

So yeah. 4.0 we are going to throw down with the ultimate primal.

No he's clearly being controlled by a being residing in the moon

[Xanikk999]

Here's my conspiracy theory about the Garleans:

The Emperor is a primal. He doesn't suck up as much aether as other primals, at least not from his surroundings - but he is the reason the Garleans can't wield magic because he absorps all of that energy from his entire empire.

And he wants more. Like all the primals, he wants more and more followers, more and more power. In true Highlander fashion he wants to be the only primal left alive, and the others must be destroyed because they suck up the energy HE wants for himself.

So yeah. 4.0 we are going to throw down with the ultimate primal.

Nah I like the idea of the Garleans inheritting a curse from the Allaghan empire. In fact I think I like the idea of the Garleans being the descendents of the Allaghans even better even if they themselves dont know they are.

[VargasVermillion]

Nah I like the idea of the Garleans inheritting a curse from the Allaghan empire. In fact I think I like the idea of the Garleans being the descendents of the Allaghans even better even if they themselves dont know they are.

I think they might have some kind of seal on them, magic or otherwise. There has to be more to it than just genetics knowing FF, or at least for why they have third eyes.

[VargasVermillion]

In note of positive garlean influence, we'll probably see more of that as we get closer to the empire, at least in rhitahtyn's case his homeland was in turmoil (possibly civil war, corruption or maybe just anarchy) and the garleans brought order and peace to his lands hence why he's so loyal to them.

That's just one example of course and no doubt we'll see more unless SE wants to make it more bias when we come to an 'imperial arc' in the MS. But one issue I think that will most definitely come up is what happens if the empire was defeated and relinquished it's conquered lands, what then? What happens to those annexed territories?

[Bman10119]

But one issue I think that will most definitely come up is what happens if the empire was defeated and relinquished it's conquered lands, what then? What happens to those annexed territories?

Historically speaking, a few things could happen depending on the recency of the territories conquest. Older territories that dont remember a time of not being conquered would be absorbed by another country nearby, or would be cut up into new countries by a combination of their own and outside influence like what happened to Prussia. the more recent conquests such as ala migo would more likely be re-established as their own indepenedent governing body with their old borders, and would be assisted by outside allies in rebuilding and stabilizing their original or a new government. That could happen to the older conquests too, but is unlikely.

[Frigidchick]

I'd side with the Garleans--JUST to aid in the other nations' destruction-- like Ala Mhigo... because, if my guy can't have a homeland, or have his people be treated like they are a part of the nations, then to hell with the other nations.

[Jinrya-Geki]

Or: Primals and Garleans are BOTH evil and need to be stomped out.

Seriously, name a single good thing the Garleans have ever done that wasn't mirrored or negated by their own actions.

Cid being awesome.

[Belhi]

I'd side with the Garleans--JUST to aid in the other nations' destruction-- like Ala Mhigo... because, if my guy can't have a homeland, or have his people be treated like they are a part of the nations, then to hell with the other nations.

You do realise that Raubahn was an Ala Mhigan refugee originally and now he is one of the six most powerful people in Ul'dah.

Ul'dah accepts people but tends to demand that show themselves as contributing and integrating. Its all about material worth. Its both horrible because it can treat victims of hardships as dirt but at the same time does mean that racial and gender tend to be less of a issue.

I'm not completely convinced on the order and peace the Garleans bring. Sure there is peace and order right up till the current ruler dies. At which point you can easily have the whole empire thrown into conflict, kind of like they just had. Garlemald wasn't invading anyone because they were having an internal war of succession. For all the losses of freedom and oppression the Garleans bring I'm not sure its a great trade off.