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    Quote Originally Posted by RaideDuku View Post
    Dunno if you just wanna play a villain (which is fine. Who doesn't like playing the bad guy from time to time), or you honestly don't think that's THAT evil and the end justifies the means(which merits an eye roll you dark, edgy person, you.), but they're practically at Saturday Morning Cartoon levels of villainy. The only way they could be more plainly evil is if they all had mustaches they twirled while plotting, and black capes...



    ... well, hell. They're halfway there, already.
    I assume that Varis's appearance is based at least in part on Golbez.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daralii View Post
    I assume that Varis's appearance is based at least in part on Golbez.

    And we know that Golbez was being mind-controlled by a person from the moon ...

    Additionally, didn't the 1st Garlean Emperor have many of his family members assassinated and that it was Nael (or was it Gaius) that carried out all that killing?

    Might explain why Varis spits on his grandfather's coffin
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    Last edited by myahele; 09-03-2015 at 04:22 PM.

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    [QUOTE=Daralii;3296068] Actually Varis and Gaius opposed it

    Also this thread is hilarious
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaiussenpai View Post
    Actually Varis and Gaius opposed it

    Also this thread is hilarious
    What, Doma?

    They might have opposed it, but it doesn't seem like they exactly condemned it. The entirety of the XIVth was effectively disowned for Gaius acting out of line with arrest orders on their heads. On the other hand, Regula was given command of the greatest airship since Mhach and is personally guarding the Emperor; he hasn't exactly been punished for what he did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaideDuku View Post
    ... Their answer to deal with Eorzea after the first attempt was "LET'S DROP A FRIKKIN MOON ON THEM". And they would've succeeded, if it didn't end up containing an exploding dragon god of rage...
    I believe Nael was acting on his own with that Dalmund nonsense.
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    Sure the leaders of Garlean Empire, that we've seen so far, have shown us their interest in overtaking Eorzea but that doesn't mean all of the peoples are bad. It would most certainly be interesting to see the other side of the coin. Perhaps the Garlean Empire is not all we have perceived.

    In any case, I think the OP wants to play as an actual villian and who am I to judge? I would definitely check it out if that was done.

    (Main Story spoilers?)
    Heck! Even playing as a "Warrior of Darkness" would pique my interest. :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaideDuku View Post
    -snip-[/IMG]

    ... well, hell. They're halfway there, already.
    They're not bad guys - though I suppose if people are applying misguided real world morality and deliberately ignoring the story then they'll assume as much, sadly.
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    Garleans have equated the Twelve with Primals in the past (which I personally believe to be true), meaning the native religions of Eorzean humankind are as big of a threat to them as beast tribes. Wipe out them, 'crack eggs' with the ones who actually like humankind, and you're next.
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    Who's to say garleans couldn't summon primals? they may not be able to cast spells but nowhere does it mention that ability is needed to summon a primal. Besides the empire could be 'good' by general standards under different leadership, I doubt all garleans think the same way and Varis can't be emperor forever. (unless they wanna go all warhammer 40K on us)
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    Quote Originally Posted by VargasVermillion View Post
    Who's to say garleans couldn't summon primals? they may not be able to cast spells but nowhere does it mention that ability is needed to summon a primal. Besides the empire could be 'good' by general standards under different leadership, I doubt all garleans think the same way and Varis can't be emperor forever. (unless they wanna go all warhammer 40K on us)
    Doesn't matter if those good ones aren't in power. As long as the ones in power call for conquest and ethnic cleansing, we will never be allied with them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hagare View Post
    Doesn't matter if those good ones aren't in power. As long as the ones in power call for conquest and ethnic cleansing, we will never be allied with them.
    unless you ally with the good ones to overthrow those in power. their Emperor is crazy enough to leave Garlemald so we can assassinate him right here.
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