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    Reika Shadowheart
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    The new sheild block.

    The new automated blocking is awesome. If anyones noticed, block rate went up given you have self preservation equipped, not down. I can't imagine anyone would dislike this. No more need to constantly press the guard button or use a shield blocking skill just to block attacks.
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    i havnt checked but are all the shields changed from block duration to block rate now
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    Stu Foo
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    You are wrong. The old VKS and DIS had 100% block rate, given that you had enough STR or were not imperiled. To claim that block rates actually went UP is insane, when it so very clearly has not.

    However, Gladiators are fine. We are less dependent on our shield and thicker overall. It's different, not better or worse. Get used to it, though it's still catering to idiots that can't watch their boon timers.
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    Last edited by Ashvrei; 10-07-2011 at 07:27 PM. Reason: Inflammatory comment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stufoo View Post
    You are wrong. The old VKS and DIS had 100% block rate, given that you had enough STR or were not imperiled. To claim that block rates actually went UP is insane, when it so very clearly has not.

    However, Gladiators are fine. We are less dependent on our shield and thicker overall. It's different, not better or worse. Get used to it, though it's still catering to idiots that can't watch their boon timers.


    PS: You're an idiot who can't watch his boon timers.
    And you're /butthurt over something that's a drastic improvement over the old system.
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    Will Brannigan
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    I don't understand how anyone could think block rates actually went up in 1.19 unless they just didn't log in and fight anything. With any Scutum or Vintage Kite Shield you could have 100% uptime on guard/shield skills and fail 0 blocks provided you weren't imperiled pre-1.19.
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    Yeah, blockrate hasn't gone up. Blockrate on gear in general has been nerfed, from my observations generally cut in half. One of the better higher end shields post 1.19 have 75% blockrate, which is still low compared to 85-100% blockrate shields prepatch. They basically gave us autoblock at the cost of lowered blockrate. As Stufoo pointed out, they just changed kind of the way Gladiator operates. We're a bit thicker overall and less reliant on our blocking. I'm 50/50 on the change, but it is what it is.
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    Question: For mages with shields, is it required you be in Active Mode to get the shield to block?
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    Reika Shadowheart
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    Ok, I was wrong about block rate going up. When I looked at my Canopus shield, the block rate is listed as 94, with Self-Presurvation I assumed it would raise to 99. However, the block rates listed are either totally wrong, or some monsters (not including enemies using magical attacks) have some way of ignoring or lessening your block rate. Either way, I think SE should look into the block rates and make sure they're correct.
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    Hiraeth Petrichor
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    You can now block and counter without having your weapon/shield drawn >_> haha. Did it a lot on CNJ today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reika View Post
    Ok, I was wrong about block rate going up. When I looked at my Canopus shield, the block rate is listed as 94, with Self-Presurvation I assumed it would raise to 99. However, the block rates listed are either totally wrong, or some monsters (not including enemies using magical attacks) have some way of ignoring or lessening your block rate. Either way, I think SE should look into the block rates and make sure they're correct.
    if im not mistaken SE incorporated mobs having increased weapon and magic stats, making it possible for melee mobs to lower ur actual block rate and magic evasion only slightly (with the exception of debuff magic). now i could be wrong but the fact of the matter is they changed the shielding system to accommodate more casual gamers, and it is infact different BUT its not terible.... oh noe now u cant shield block 100% whats this u mean you actually have to take 10-20% damage..... what will we doooooooooo? but really it was a change to incorporate the use of other skills besides spamming shield boons...... i like it and im ok with that type of system change !
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