No Dev Response?

[Nanaya]

Fixed that for you.

Why? Because to have an effective character one still has to level crafts to make equipment, grind spiritbond to make materia, DoLs to pull up materia and or farm the gil in order to circumvent any of those activities.

There's still plenty of grinding in this game directly tied to character development.

So we might as well just abolish character levels then, since there are other things to grind. Forgetting of course that some people don't care to craft, or gather/mine.

People supporting the incredible amounts of exp you earn through PL parties are painfully short sighted. I'm fine with PLing in theory, but in FFXI style, where the PL's influence only extended to healing/buffing the party. As things stand right now, you'd damn near be a fool not to PL. Not to mention I can only feel pity for people who don't have 50s, since it seems the established norm is becoming, "Need x amount of people for PL party, must have a level 50."

I hate to beat the long necrotic, dead horse, but they really need to take the good FFXI had, and start running with it. Their new ideas so far leave much to be desired.

[Alkoun]

So we might as well just abolish character levels then, since there are other things to grind. Forgetting of course that some people don't care to craft, or gather/mine.

People supporting the incredible amounts of exp you earn through PL parties are painfully short sighted. I'm fine with PLing in theory, but in FFXI style, where the PL's influence only extended to healing/buffing the party. As things stand right now, you'd damn near be a fool not to PL. Not to mention I can only feel pity for people who don't have 50s, since it seems the established norm is becoming, "Need x amount of people for PL party, must have a level 50."

I hate to beat the long necrotic, dead horse, but they really need to take the good FFXI had, and start running with it. Their new ideas so far leave much to be desired.

I hate to admit it, but this is correct. On Rabanastre, I'd say about 75% of the shouting for parties I see in Uldah are for PL parties. What if I don't want to PL or I don't have a level 50? Think that 25% or less would be on and available and have the level-appropriate classes needed to fulfill the necessary roles to start a party right there and then to grind a beastman stronghold which may or may not be full of PL parties?

[Sephrick]

I hate to admit it, but this is correct. On Rabanastre, I'd say about 75% of the shouting for parties I see in Uldah are for PL parties. What if I don't want to PL or I don't have a level 50? Think that 25% or less would be on and available and have the level-appropriate classes needed to fulfill the necessary roles to start a party right there and then to grind a beastman stronghold which may or may not be full of PL parties?

You and I must be on different versions of Rab, because I've yet to see a single shout for a PL party.

Just because of that, we should excuse the cheap EXP for DoW/DoM? I don't buy it.

Why not? It's the player's choice. Not everything has to be an absolute grind.

[Kafeen]

Power levelling may be an issue but can we leave Solo play how it is, it feels much more balanced than it used to.

[Denmo]

Why not? It's the player's choice. Not everything has to be an absolute grind.

Because as soon as you let everyone skip the grind on one thing, they start demanding it of the others. "Why am I grinding crafting and gathering if I don't have to grind battles? Why's there a grind at all? Boohoo SE I want you to remove the grind!"

[Sephrick]

Because as soon as you let everyone skip the grind on one thing, they start demanding it of the others. "Why am I grinding crafting and gathering if I don't have to grind battles? Why's there a grind at all? Boohoo SE I want you to remove the grind!"

The "all or nothing" slippery slope argument works in both directions.

What's the point in ever stopping the grind? Why not scale things like Ifrit and Darkhold so the mobs are always a certain number of levels above the players. Then the "achievement" is saying "we beat Ifrit at level 732! Only took us sixty million experience points to reach it!" And they can make it so you need a very specific party configuration to ever reach the peak of 1k exp per hour!!!

Obviously there needs to be a line and SE has drawn it.

[Denmo]

Obviously there needs to be a line and SE has drawn it.

Quote please? Are you SE? Has the patch been out for so long that it's already set in stone? I must've missed this.

In any case I won't discuss PLing further in this topic. It can be locked if need be. I got my answer.

[Sephrick]

Quote please? Are you SE? Has the patch been out for so long that it's already set in stone? I must've missed this.

In any case I won't discuss PLing further in this topic. It can be locked if need be. I got my answer.

The burden of proof isn't on me. Yoshi said he was ok with powerleveling and released a system that permits powerleveling. Each day that goes by that there isn't a patch to fix the "zomg broken system" is one more piece of evidence that SE is monitoring the situation but has put out exactly what they meant to.

[Travesty]

Yoshi said he was ok with powerleveling

How many times are people going to stupidly reply with this argument, like him saying he's "ok with powerleveling" means he's "ok with people powerleveling to 50 in a day?"

Powerleveling has an extremely wide array of possible meanings. What XIV has is about the most extreme version of it you could possibly have, so just going by chance, it's likely he didn't mean that.

[Abriael]

It's been nearly 2 days since 1.19, and the public outcry has almost died down to a tumult of agreeable dissent. The major topics of discussion that people want to know about have stayed alive throughout, and those that were just mere childish cries have sorted themselves out.

You, sir, need to buy some realism. They sell it at the supermarket down the block.

Oh, and *demanding* a dev answer on whatever question is in extreme poor taste.