Quote Originally Posted by Culfinrandir View Post
That's exactly the problem. Why people organise 4x2 on the PF is because they can use a spreadsheet to balance the team to ensure that they get it. It's SE's fault because most WD devotees already have these teams sorted so a lone queuer can never get in.
This, and soular's explanation explain it, then. It's an access issue for those of us who weren't around when Wolves Den came out. Because I missed the glory days when everyone playing it was starting at Rank 0 and working up together (Some faster than others, for those of you who were devoted to it) I'm essentially locked out of it, especially on my server, where PvP is considered the shady corner under the bleachers where all the smokers hang out. The one thing that gives me hope for it, is that, maybe, if i'm lucky, once I reach rank 50 I might have better luck with quing with the "hardcore crowd," though, I still don't see that happening, because I'm already with 7 ranks of 50 and still can't manage to get a que time less than 30 minutes.

The main hope I have right now is that the reboot of Wolves Den might pick it up in popularity on my server, so that I can find some PF groups or LS groups willing to get into it with me.