Can we get an update in moves that are useless

[Vanhelsinki]

Scathe
Freeze
Surecast
Sleep
Lethargy

Guess some1 doesn't pvp
Freeze and sleep are super cc's and one of major reasons to bring blm

[Fevelle]

There is use for all of these skills:

Scathe
Freeze
Surecast
Sleep
Lethargy

... while in PVE too. Surecast before the first Holy for WHM if you're surrounded and taking damage, Freeze when tank is losing aggro and the mobs are spreading, Sleep to help the healer if damage is too high or tank overpulled, Lethargy if something aggros you so the tank can take it back before it gets to you...

[Lambdafish]

Awareness
Shield swipe
Bulwark (to a lesser extent)
Clemency has its uses, but is not viable as it stands

[Aiselia]

Awareness
Shield swipe
Bulwark (to a lesser extent)
Clemency has its uses, but is not viable as it stands

What?

Awareness and Bulwark both reduce damage you take, which obviously is important as a tank. Pairing it with Raw Intuition as a Warrior is great for pulls of multiple targets where at least some will not be in front of you.
Shield Swipe is a 40 TP high enmity move which doesn't interrupt your combo, helping with TP conservation and aggro generation.

How are they useless?

[waifugenerator]

Scathe
Blizzard II
Freeze
Thunder II
Surecast
Sleep
Lethargy

Blizzard II is amazing for SMN, it's our only AoE filler spell. The rest are pretty useless now though, save for sleep for quests maybe.

[Trespar]

Blizzard II is amazing for SMN, it's our only AoE filler spell. The rest are pretty useless now though, save for sleep for quests maybe.

It's not amazing, it's just less shit than tri-bind.

It's still shit, though.

[Sylkis]

Blizzard II is amazing for SMN, it's our only AoE filler spell. The rest are pretty useless now though, save for sleep for quests maybe.

Good for SCH too when 4+ enemies

[Geardagas]

There's only a few abilities that have absolutely 100% zero use, but there are alot that are generally useless save for a few niche scenarios.

Bard:
Shadowbind
Warden's paeon
Wide Volley (100% completely useless)

Astrologian:
the spear
nocturnal sect
collective unconscious
celestial opposition

[ChameleonMS]

Warden's paeon

Niche use coming:
WAR in the party using Berserk and kindly uses a macro to let healer be ready for Esuna/Leeches in 15 seconds.
BRD puts Warden's Paeon immediately on WAR. Healer never needs to do a thing.

[hallena]

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The spear is amazing, not sure why you think its useless. It's just one of those you spread and use it before big cooldowns are used
Nocturnal sect make astro god mode in pvp
Collective unconcious is pretty good after the fix making its regen a heal over time. Its basically a mana free aoe WHM's Regen