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    Dr. Yosheep and how I learned to love the RNG, New event/reward system?

    This game currently is too short sighted in keeping everyone happy by trying to make everybody relevant and outdating its gear with every new addition to force people into a carbon copied version of the same Tome Farming System...

    Time to wake up FFXIV, you don't have to recreate the wheel here, your company made a great, albeit slow and less pretty version of the game you have now. While I'm not saying go back to farming NMs or camping Faf for 12+hrs just to not get claim and piss off your E.G. Shell, I am saying look at the systems that popularized the game (Nyzul, Neo-Dynamis, Salvage, Assaults, Campaign, Beseiged, Sea), the classes and how they interconnected and balanced one another, and start getting creative. Unless this game is designed to have only a 5 year run, stop trying so hard to be new that in actuality you're just being played out like every MMO before you.
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    Balanced classes? You mean in that game where you have to be 1 of 5 jobs the community prefers of the 22 jobs available to do endgame... or they would rather spend hours shouting than take you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    Balanced classes? You mean in that game where you have to be 1 of 5 jobs the community prefers of the 22 jobs available to do endgame... or they would rather spend hours shouting than take you?
    I never said that FFXI had "Balanced Classes" and while its later less popular iteration of content made many more classes necessary for "Procing" in Abyssea or Voidwatch. What I'm saying is, stop trying to preserve every class by making all of them flat. Classes like BRD still getting the shaft and only really being brought for the possibility of using Mana/TP regen, but mostly to hit from range when boss zones out the melee dps to keep up with check. While having classes like WAR that make PLD basically obsolete in End Game Content. FFXI may not of been balanced, but at least it didn't pretend to be like this game does with its class system.

    IF anything that is everything my post is arguing against is the desire to make every class relevant for all content at the cost of hindering other classes or newer ones.
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    So.. you're asking for niche content that isn't worth the investment time?
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    ^^ I get that the intention was to be funny, but it falls flat when you don't source what you're refering to. Because I'm saying for there not to be content that is phased out so quickly as it currently is which would increase the value of your time investment in obtaining it. So if you're going to troll, be specific.
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    keeping everyone happy
    So are you happy?

    Time to wake up FFXIV, you don't have to recreate the wheel here
    It's time to wake up FFXIV? Or it's time for FFXIV to wake up? Or SE?

    you're just being played out like every MMO before you.
    But I thought you said they were trying something new?

    force people into a carbon copied version of the same Tome Farming System...
    I guess not then?

    Look, I'm not trying to troll here, but perhaps I'm simply too "Short Sighted" to understand what you are talking about? Your post just doesn't make sense to me. I'm sorry. However, I played FFXI for 7 years and I personally can't agree on bringing back more features from it. I'm satisfied with the current system and overall experience.
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    I'll make this quick because I'm not in the mood for silly riddles that don't address the topic at all.
    1. Yes I'm happy with how classes operate to an extent but the route this game is taking on aquiring gear that defeats the purpose of previous gear. Also not committing to supports having strong utility out of fear that they will become necissary as opposed to being optional.
    2. This is pure semantics, the point is SE stop pandering to the lowest common denominator, people that play this game should be able to handle more then just a pigeon holed role.
    3. I said, "Stop TRYING so hard to be new..." I'm not saying it shouldn't take a new approach but I'm saying stop trying to reinvent the wheel here. There is perfectly good systems that this company has created for loot and it basically harness none of them simply to say "We're FFXIV not FFXI" even though that same thinking is what lead to no chocobos and no marketboards.
    4. No idea what you're trying to say here...
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    I'll make this quick because I'm not in the mood for silly riddles that don't address the topic at all.
    That's how you perceive it. It doesn't make it the truth. Riddles? I could say the same about your post. If your so hostile towards others disagreeing or trying to understand your point of view, why would you even come here and post?

    4. No idea what you're trying to say here...
    Welcome to the club? That's exactly what I'm trying to tell you. I don't understand what you are talking about at all. Explain, don't act like the world is against you. Is it such a sin to admit that I am overly confused by your post?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sareal View Post
    I don't understand what you are talking about at all. Explain, don't act like the world is against you. Is it such a sin to admit that I am overly confused by your post?
    Sigh....
    Problem: Current game content (specifically Disciple of War/Magic) is dry and boring because it is the same systems we have used since 2.0, and nothing other then the skins of the content has changed and names, so it requires a change. Currently players are really only using Dungeons for Roulettes and Raids for Alex with the occasional Trials for glamor, but everytime you run the content, it is the same, with no variation.

    Hypothesis: If we make game content that is varied and challenging, even if we do it 100x, it won't be so face-rolly. I.E. Nyzul, Neo Dynamis, Salvage, Assaults. Great challenging content that varied everytime you did it (if you ran 3 runs of any event listed it was not the same experience and had slightly different mechanics to make each one unique).
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    Are you trying to ask for more variety in content, and less vertical - more horizontal progression?

    the classes and how they interconnected and balanced one another
    I'm not even sure if you're talking about FFXI with this one. Balance was non-existent, and if you're not aware how XIV jobs compliment and enhance each other....well....
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