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    Quote Originally Posted by Galgarion View Post
    melded accessories for the win, in my opinion. Why would a tank ever want more than around 850-900 strength if he's just doing casual content? It's like training in mma to beat up a fifth grader.
    Why does a car need 600HP when 85HP will also get me from A to B? More Power!!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eye_Gore View Post
    Why does a car need 600HP when 85HP will also get me from A to B? More Power!!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshayn View Post
    ... the FACT remains that I know dozens of healers who do not appreciate STR tanks when they go into the DF. The reason they do not appreciate these STR tanks has been unanimously consistent among those I interact with. With a primary reason being they can find very little time to incorporate anything other than constant cast healing into their rotation, and the fact that it is just expected of them to tolerate it.
    I have done quite a large number of Expert Roulette runs as DRK, with 3 different gear sets (4F/1S MT, full slaying, and the 3S/2F mix I use for Alex Savage) and recently I've found something: Even with me in full slaying gear, plenty of healers of all classes have found time to DPS while keeping me alive. I think I even remember a pre-buff AST popping gravity a few times while I was in slaying gear once. Go figure.

    tl;dr: Maybe your healer friends are still a bit undergeared, or maybe they just need to get more comfortable with their abilities, and learn how to tell if their tank is good or not (and trust the tank if he/she is) after the first pull or 2.

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    Dancer is a physical hybrid melee/range class, not a true ranged class. I love it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eye_Gore View Post
    Why does a car need 600HP when 85HP will also get me from A to B? More Power!!!!!!
    Quote Originally Posted by Galgarion View Post
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    Also like this reply, but the logic in me is really bothering me to comment haha. If we're talking cars 'hp' would better equate to fuel in a car, and actual horse power being correlated to str. Exp: A tank with less hp (or in this case fuel) would have to make many more pitstops for heals, but higher the str we'd be getting there faster with increased frequency of going empty on fuel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pervy View Post
    Also like this reply, but the logic in me is really bothering me to comment haha. If we're talking cars 'hp' would better equate to fuel in a car, and actual horse power being correlated to str. Exp: A tank with less hp (or in this case fuel) would have to make many more pitstops for heals, but higher the str we'd be getting there faster with increased frequency of going empty on fuel.
    However though. You could have less fuel and still the same power. With the proper transmission, we'll call knowledge. Once up to speed and the proper gearing that engine will be revving less thus using less fuel but more efficiency and will still arrive at the same time as the one with more fuel because it had to use more to keep its engine revving higher to stay on pace. If that makes any sense, I don't even know if I understand that, though somewhere in my mind it is somewhat clear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eye_Gore View Post
    snip.
    Haha indeed I see your logic. In a way, yes, less fuel and same power with better 'efficiency' would mean getting to the destination sooner if not the same time.

    But, your leaving out one crucial step which is factoring in the time loss having to refuel more often because you have less capacity in the tank. That trade off of having to spend more time refueling from the healer than letting the healer keeping up continual dps is a heavy factor on a long trip through a instance. Haha since I'm sure many can relate to multiple pit stops adding a big chunk of time on a long drive. Now when we factor in efficiency a healer can do, they would be far more effective if they don't have to worry about tending to the fuel as much, and instead use cleric stance to it's utmost dpsing.

    Haha though an even bigger factor is the milage that vary between War/Pal/Drk which really changes up the dynamics of our car rides.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pervy View Post
    But, your leaving out one crucial step which is factoring in the time loss having to refuel more often because you have less capacity in the tank
    Maybe so, but with a small tank and if no one is using any other pumps at the station it will fill faster than the guy with the larger tank. So while he still pumping because its taking longer to fill his tank, I'll catch up. Unless of course they make it one tank, but still the time saved is small. Now if we're talking pit crew fill up the time would be negligible.

    Basically I just think that for the non-raid content the difference between using STR vs VIT to get done quicker is barely noticeable. Use whatever you fell comfortable with, you will clear the content either way.
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