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    Nektulos-Tuor's Avatar
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    Thanatos Ravensweald
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    Quote Originally Posted by Metalwrath View Post
    I don't consider unchained a damage booster.It's mererly nullifying the damage reduction from defiance and has an annoyingly long cooldown.Also if you gonna use that combo for burst damage it's much better to use those 5 stacks of wrath as abandon instead for a fell cleave which is a free 500 potency hit.Not to mention deliverance gives you more base damage than unchained will.
    120s is about as long as most defensive cool-downs. Its not that long.

    It makes you 1/4th more damage.

    Its a huge damage boost because "all" your damage is being cut by 25%.

    Deliverance also cuts your threat and defense down significantly.

    Does Deliverance give you threat? I haven't played Warrior past 50ish yet but I was a 50 warrior for quite a long time.
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    Last edited by Nektulos-Tuor; 09-03-2015 at 02:09 PM.

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    Rowan Sternritter
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
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    Considering damage generates threat, yes; Deliverance does give a good WAR threat, especially considering their aggro combo is also their primary damage combo. It's a bit like Sword Oath tanking; requires skill.
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    Tatsu Masumi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freyyy View Post
    I know that lol I keep saying it everytime someone is arguing that going with VIT makes you tankier. It's just that when you're not that experienced in tanking it feels safer to get some more HP before going STR. It gives a margin of error when a player is new to tanking and learning the job.
    Which is why it's not the end of the world tho. If it makes you more comfy or gives room for more mistakes if you need that its ok. Obviously if you don't need that you'll be doing more for the group but let's be honest the difference dps wise for the tank alone isn't going to make or break anything pre Alex savage other then caring a bad dps or 2...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    GOOD tanks DO BETTER AT self-healing and SUSTAINING health and usually know how to use their mitigation tools better.

    BAD tanks are usually lazy and put everything on the healer's shoulders.[/I]

    Instead of making fun of me or my threads, can you actually listen to what I am saying? Why are tanks intentionally making it harder on their healers who try their best?
    Fixed it for you
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    Senliten Solstice
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    Strength Accessories + 20% from Maim + 50% from Berserk + Unchained is a very huge increase in damage. I would say even about 50% because damage modifiers multiply your damage. I was talking about that if you read my thread.

    Yes, I do have issues healing through massive mobs, i'm low ilvl. Still wearing a few pieces of level 58 gear.

    I have a much easier time healing dungeons when the tanks go full strength, because things honesty die faster.

    Strength tanks have more self-healing and sustained health and usually know how to use their mitigation tools better.

    Vitality tanks are usually lazy and put everything on the healer's shoulders.


    Instead of making fun of me or my threads, can you actually listen to what I am saying? Why are tanks intentionally making it harder on their healers who try their best?
    Soo in short, you're a filthy casual who doesn't want to do their job decently? So you blame the next tank you see with vit gear?Ya know, how bout just admitting you suck and wish to know how to git gud, then maybe we can take ya seriously. As for making it harder on healers? Must be the ones you roll with, seeing the few I go into content with can dps, heal, and make me a sammich, all at the same time when running as a tank.
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    Strength tanks do not always equal good tanks. Is does not automatically make them easier to heal. It does not automatically make things die faster. You have to have a GOOD tank for strength specing not be a pain in the ass. All your gonna be doing is spam healing them while hopefully they survive. You shouldn't be riding on the back of a tank carrying the dps YOU should be contributing as well just because your not good enough. If you can't dps with a GOOD full vit tank you honostly don't deserve a GOOD strength tank. If gear is your issue get better gear and start carrying your own weight. Once you can do above your job both tanks and healers should be dps in a perfect world so get better gear and start stancw dancing then you can complain when others don't. till then your just asking to be carried
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    I too would like to know that answer for sheer lols.
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    This thread just keeps delivering!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RapBreon View Post
    This thread just keeps delivering!
    Ikr its like watching the republican debate.
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