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  1. #231
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    bounddreamer's Avatar
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    Talya Stormbreaker
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiisWolf View Post
    I'm saving this.
    Only if you're saving it to laugh at it some more. As well as the fact that they used it to try and validate their argument.
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  2. #232
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    I too would like to know that answer for sheer lols.
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  3. #233
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    Senliten Solstice
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iagainsti View Post
    You didn't answer my question, OP. It did receive 9 likes, get on it.
    Make that 10 now. :3

    I see you don't PUG. If I had a pet tank myself I would probably not be making this thread. This thread is about tanks learning the game, maybe you should "git lerning 2 reed".

    Just posting randomly when you come into a thread doesn't make you look smart, it makes you look silly.

    What i'm doing is telling tanks to take off the training wheels they don't really need.
    implying i use titan egi? oh lawld, please. stahp, imma die of laughter from your own hilarious idiocy. Just because a profile shows up with one thing, doesn't mean one can't rock another.
    Anyways, i'm not really posting as random as the one who is getting so butt hurt because 'whaaaaaa, people don't play how i want them to mommie, make those tanks that i think are inferior, do as i say'

    See where I am going with this? Yer bitching over not having yer way, this is an MMO, get the hell used to people using different approaches to content. Be it wearing vit for a bit then gradually getting the hang and understanding of what they (the player) can do so they can swap piece by piece, or by going full str after knowing well enough what their abilities are, but to flat out make a post and whine at those whom use vit for reasons of their own that you can't seem to understand, accept for showing your own lack of ability and want someone else to cover it up, no.. just no, that's foolish, selfish, juvenile, and down right something only a casual will try and say. So how about coming to the understanding that not everyone is the same in the skill department, and that some need time to tackle content in different aspects? Time which you seem could be better spent on others, by telling them how you want them to play, but not yourself.
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    Last edited by Senliten; 09-03-2015 at 07:39 AM.

  4. #234
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    Nektulos-Tuor's Avatar
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    Thanatos Ravensweald
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    Quote Originally Posted by Senliten View Post
    Make that 10 now. :3



    implying i use titan egi? oh lawld, please. stahp, imma die of laughter from your own hilarious idiocy. Just because a profile shows up with one thing, doesn't mean one can't rock another.
    Anyways, i'm not really posting as random as the one who is getting so butt hurt because 'whaaaaaa, people don't play how i want them to mommie, make those tanks that i think are inferior, do as i say'

    See where I am going with this? Yer bitching over not having yer way, this is an MMO, get the hell used to people using different approaches to content. Be it wearing vit for a bit then gradually getting the hang and understanding of what they (the player) can do so they can swap piece by piece, or by going full str after knowing well enough what their abilities are, but to flat out make a post and whine at those whom use vit for reasons of their own that you can't seem to understand, accept for showing your own lack of ability and want someone else to cover it up, no.. just no, that's foolish, selfish, juvenile, and down right something only a casual will try and say. So how about coming to the understanding that not everyone is the same in the skill department, and that some need time to tackle content in different aspects? Time which you seem could be better spent on others, by telling them how you want them to play, but not yourself.
    I met a pet tank as in a friend. I didn't even read your class actually.

    I don't see you calling people names then defending a stat that creates laziness and does nothing but makes fights longer. All "hard" content in the game is a DPS Check, if you don't clear that check, you wipe.

    Sure, I can DPS too. However I will never be up to-par DPS with a proper Tank.
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  5. #235
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    Alahra's Avatar
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    Alahra Valkhir
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    Sure, I can DPS too. However I will never be up to-par DPS with a proper Tank.
    On trash pulls you should be pretty close even if they're in STR gear.
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  6. #236
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alahra View Post
    On trash pulls you should be pretty close even if they're in STR gear.
    If i'm not doing anything but DPSing maybe. Tank is probably dead if they do more then a few mobs. It actually isn't hard to DPS in regular instances below 60. However once you get to 60 its room pulls only. On bosses I can actually DPS some times fine.

    However, its still nowhere near tank levels of damage. It shouldn't be.
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  7. #237
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    However, its still nowhere near tank levels of damage. It shouldn't be.
    Once your gear is caught up and with proper cooldown management/pet usage, you should be able to approach 80-90% of your tank's DPS if they're in full STR gear (and usually surpass them if not) on any pull where you get significant DPS time. It's all about creating opportunities to DPS, and once you get used to that, you can easily do comparable damage to a similarly-geared tank's damage.
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  8. #238
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    Nel Synestra
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kumabear76 View Post
    That's why I run a hybrid build.
    Aye im also rolling with Hybrids most of the time, tho i still have full STR and full VIT gearsets for diffirent fights(faust solo-tank is full vit so is A2S for example).
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  9. #239
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    Rhulk Roegan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    Strength Accessories + 20% from Maim + 50% from Berserk + Unchained is a very huge increase in damage. I would say even about 50% because damage modifiers multiply your damage. I was talking about that if you read my thread.

    I have a much easier time healing dungeons when the tanks go full strength, because things honesty die faster.

    Strength tanks have more self-healing and sustained health and usually know how to use their mitigation tools better.
    I don't consider unchained a damage booster.It's mererly nullifying the damage reduction from defiance and has an annoyingly long cooldown.Also if you gonna use that combo for burst damage it's much better to use those 5 stacks of wrath as abandon instead for a fell cleave which is a free 500 potency hit.Not to mention deliverance gives you more base damage than unchained will.
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  10. #240
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    Quote Originally Posted by Metalwrath View Post
    I don't consider unchained a damage booster.It's mererly nullifying the damage reduction from defiance and has an annoyingly long cooldown.Also if you gonna use that combo for burst damage it's much better to use those 5 stacks of wrath as abandon instead for a fell cleave which is a free 500 potency hit.Not to mention deliverance gives you more base damage than unchained will.
    120s is about as long as most defensive cool-downs. Its not that long.

    It makes you 1/4th more damage.

    Its a huge damage boost because "all" your damage is being cut by 25%.

    Deliverance also cuts your threat and defense down significantly.

    Does Deliverance give you threat? I haven't played Warrior past 50ish yet but I was a 50 warrior for quite a long time.
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    Last edited by Nektulos-Tuor; 09-03-2015 at 02:09 PM.

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