Tanks, please use strength gear.. :(

[Phoenicia]

My main objection to the OP's point isnt the point itself, it's his totally incorrect reasoning. ...

My main objection to the OP's point isn't the point itself, it's that he is telling us how to play our jobs with an attitude of: "Play the way I want you to play, not the way you want to/should play".

[Freyyy]

Lol this guy. Instead of training wheels you add a third wheel for STR tanks. You still look awful on it. Anything a STR tank can do a VIT tank can do equally the same.

Except DPS. Whereas everything a VIT tank can do a STR tank can do equally the same, but he can have good DPS at the same time. Just an exception for savage content where you must have a minimum VIT threshold to sufficiently survive big hits before focusing on STR, thus making hybrid builds the most optimal option.

[HoodRat]

My main objection to the OP's point isn't the point itself, it's that he is telling us how to play our jobs with an attitude of: "Play the way I want you to play, not the way you want to/should play".

To be fair, there are plenty of people who willingly hold back groups just because they want to play like garbage.

[Yorumi]

@Yorumi

I never said that the 1 and 2 from my list ended up being the greater percentage of focus for an experienced tank in this game, in fact I stated the opposite when I said that it becomes second nature and you don't really need to think about it.
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I tanked in WoW (as well as many other MMO's from EQ1 on) and found it to be easier than in FF14. Agro control was so easy it felt virtually automated.

I know you wern't trying to imply they were necessarily the major focus of the class. Really though automated describes agro management in ff14 perfectly. I've just never seen a case where a tank has a proper weapon and a dps was realistically able to threaten a tank's aggro. To me aggro is so automated in this game that it's a little like saying a mnk needs to focus on second wind. Sure a tank needs to maintain aggro but it's so automated that they have to be almost trying to avoid aggro to not hold it.

As far as the comparison to tanks in other games, defensive vs offensive isn't really all of it. The design of hte classes in general is such that here maximizing a tank is mostly brain dead. I mean max dps on pld is just GB > 2x RA. If you need the str down then it's just a rotation through all 3 combos. Combine with the very slow 2.5 sec GCD and you have very low APM classes. Contrast to a tank that needs to maintain tight defensive buffs that don't have a trivial combo to gain the buff, or has buffs randomly falling off(absorb damage, or stacks being consumed). These buffs/debuffs contribute to a tanks survivability and fight mechanics now are major consideration and makes a tank think more about tanking. I'm not saying these other games are super impossible hard, but by comparison ff14 is brain dead.

[JMadFour]

You don't have to dps, you could stand there and do absolutely nothing when you don't need to work on gaining enmity or mitigating anything. Just don't get upset when you start getting kicked out of every group.

Yeah because thats EXACTLY what I do.

I Unleash twice and then stand there doing nothing for the rest of the fight.

/eyeroll

[Seku]

To be fair, there are plenty of people who willingly hold back groups just because they want to play like garbage.

To be fair there is the choice of leaving said player behind and getting good players and kicking said player out of the party if you're in DF. I do it all the time.

[Ageofwar]

I normal a DPS but I've just started trying to level Dark Knight (which i have at level 41 atm) and I'm just learning the ropes of tanking.

from what i understand from the OP my right side of my gear should be all STR accessories? which sounds kinda nuts if you ask me

[Alahra]

Really though automated describes agro management in ff14 perfectly.

I'm guessing you didn't tank in WoW (or if you did, you did so prior to mid-Wrath of the Lich King, when the tanks were designed differently). All tank actions have an enmity modifier of some ridiculous number (5000x or something like that, I don't recall the exact figure)--there were no skills that had special enmity modifiers, so as long as you were doing your rotation, you had threat, pretty much full stop. Resources weren't as much of an issue in AoE situations, either, as tanks could AoE to their heart's content in WoW since things regenerated much more quickly than MP and TP do here.

That's pretty different from FFXIV, where automated doesn't necessarily apply. If you don't use your enmity skills, you won't generally hold hate, and you have to gauge how much you need to use them given your group's damage and healing output at the time. There's nothing automatic about that--you actually have to make decisions regarding aggro control. WoW's system is automated because enmity is automatically applied to everything you do.

[Freyyy]

I normal a DPS but I've just started trying to level Dark Knight (which i have at level 41 atm) and I'm just learning the ropes of tanking.

from what i understand from the OP my right side of my gear should be all STR accessories? which sounds kinda nuts if you ask me

If you're just learning tanking for now and feel like you're squishy, you should take at least some VIT accessories. Then when you'll start to be used to the tanking mechanics and how to properly mitigate damage, you won't need that extra VIT anymore and should try to swap progressively to STR accessories. It's I think the best way to get used to it.

[HoodRat]

To be fair there is the choice of leaving said player behind and getting good players and kicking said player out of the party if you're in DF. I do it all the time.

I tried to do that once, but we just got an even worse player. ;-;