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  1. #81
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    Blueskyy's Avatar
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    Scholar Lv 60
    you know what? It's funny that whenever i parse as a warrior, my DPS is always about 1000-9xx thro the dg while i see some DPS jobs doing 300 to 400 dps. Tell the damage dealers to practice their rotations before asking tanks to wear str accessories
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  2. #82
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    MirielleLavandre's Avatar
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    Gabrielle Beausejour
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    Halicarnassus
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Honestly, I don't even pay attention to what the tank is wearing - no matter what accessories they wear they'll never go below 70% HP and I'll never go below 50% MP in experts -- so STR or VIT doesn't matter in the current experts. I'm more concerned with the dps doing 400-600 while using i200 weapons...that is where the real finger pointing should be for slow or longer dungeon runs. However -- I do think that it gets annoying carrying new tanks (in law gear or lower) who read stuff like this and try to tank like an experienced tank and so overpull wearing all STR, don't use cooldowns properly, and make me heal them for more and dps less. I'll still never run out of MP, they'll still never dip below 70%, but they'll never 'learn' to use CDs by losing HP quickly because, as a healer healing them, they won't. Unless the OP is saying I should let them get hurt just a lil more so they learn :P
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  3. #83
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    RiisWolf's Avatar
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    Triptolemus Zaels
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    Balmung
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Blueskyy View Post
    you know what? It's funny that whenever i parse as a warrior, my DPS is always about 1000-9xx thro the dg while i see some DPS jobs doing 300 to 400 dps. Tell the damage dealers to practice their rotations before asking tanks to wear str accessories
    This is why WoW has a the rotation spelled out to us in the spellbook in-game and explaining just how effective the stats are.

    And here we get the cho cho train of "meh" thinking it's all a good job when in fact it's only decent at best. Worst part is the DPS are stuck having to deal with mechanics most of the time.
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  4. #84
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    Drtoxicmedica's Avatar
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    Tatsu Masumi
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    Malboro
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by RiisWolf View Post
    This is why WoW has a the rotation spelled out to us in the spellbook in-game and explaining just how effective the stats are.

    And here we get the cho cho train of "meh" thinking it's all a good job when in fact it's only decent at best. Worst part is the DPS are stuck having to deal with mechanics most of the time.
    Except the leveling in this game is a giant tutorial. Honestly how do you not understand a basic rotation after leveling? You get 1 ability at a time in a way where it pretty much spells out when and how it should be used as well as a decent span of time before they give you the next step. Oh that's right they assume you have a brain and actually read what the abilities say in the tool tip. There's only a few which throw a complete rotation change at you at the last second but they have already taught you what the basic concept will be. Like monk and blm in 2.X
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  5. #85
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    Caidyn Svalinn
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    Brynhildr
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    Paladin Lv 60
    A tank should use whatever accessories are needed for the encounters, for group balance, and what the healer(s)' comfortable with. I find it a general rule to keep a full STR and VIT accessory set on hand, and always mix in pieces dynamically.

    It's always been this way.




    ....stop telling me what to do, dammit.
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  6. #86
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    Iagainsti Kilamanjiro
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    Zalera
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    I .. am actually a summoner for roleplay purposes, so I can wear summoner gear. Sorry dude, I have multiple toons/characters.
    Riddle me this, my role playing OP;
    Say I roleplay a tank who's allergic to slaying accessories, would your complaints not break the RPnerd code of ethics?
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  7. #87
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    Iagainsti Kilamanjiro
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    #DarkWarriordin <3 Phoenicia
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  8. #88
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    DestinovaTrueblade's Avatar
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    Destinova Trueblade
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    Malboro
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    Dragoon Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Drtoxicmedica View Post
    Except the leveling in this game is a giant tutorial. Honestly how do you not understand a basic rotation after leveling? You get 1 ability at a time in a way where it pretty much spells out when and how it should be used as well as a decent span of time before they give you the next step. Oh that's right they assume you have a brain and actually read what the abilities say in the tool tip. There's only a few which throw a complete rotation change at you at the last second but they have already taught you what the basic concept will be. Like monk and blm in 2.X
    Fate grinding has a lot to do with why people are bad at their jobs at max level.
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  9. #89
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    Metalwrath's Avatar
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    Rhulk Roegan
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    Raiden
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by DestinovaTrueblade View Post
    Fate grinding has a lot to do with why people are bad at their jobs at max level.
    This.
    Now that the xp has been buffed people level alt jobs even from lvl 50-60 purely through fates only.
    You have 2 kinds of players.The fate grinders or the dungeon players.Needless to say it's not rocket science which player is gonna be better at their roles.
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  10. #90
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    Rhulk Roegan
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    Raiden
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Just want to clarify i wasn't personally advocating that new tanks go str acc.I was jsut stating that warriors in full dps mode constantly can carry dps.It shouldn't be the case but it happens frequently.And for mechanics like the adds in fractual last boss my fell cleaves have made the difference between the adds going down in time or getting too far across the room.

    Back on topic with str acc for new tanks.SHouldn't be done period.Stay with vit always while new to the role.When you have mastered your cooldowns useage and know the differences between main tanking and offtanking by all means go start useing str,But if you still struggle in str mode it's fine to just say vit.It's better tank stays alive than eats dirt and causes wipe.That makes for a much slower run.
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