Tanks, please use strength gear.. :(

[lol123]

This thread hasn't stopped? Hey how about if your gear is high enough to not stress out the healer and you know the fight by all means add some strength gear if your undergeard don't add any strength gear why do we need 40 pages of derp?

[KeluBehemoth]

Theres a ton of confusion in this thread and a ton of REALLY good points from a lot of people on both sides.

VIT is a cushion. Where is that cushion good? In content that the tank is either undergeared for or unexperienced with. New raids. Low level dungeons and huge trash pulls

A healer is going to do a HELL of a lot more DPS on a big trash pull than you're ever going to hope to achieve spamming your skills

STR is the BEST for single target/boss content. (Unless the tank is undergeared/inexprienced then refer to the above)

If you manage your cooldowns properly, combined with your mitigation you're going to take your party further with that added DPS and threat generation

I actually wear my VIT during trash pulls and then swap to STR when we get to the boss.

Again there is no cookie cutter perfect loadout for your tank. The jobs playstyle is situational and responsive and so is the gear

[Fynlar]

Maybe if healers stopped letting me die due to my low HP running out before their cures finish casting, I'd consider it more.

[rockint]

Maybe if healers stopped letting me die due to my low HP running out before their cures finish casting, I'd consider it more.

But they just don't like to use those heal buttons anymore. They can at least be doing damage if they're going to just let us die. Anything more than just standing there.

[Astral145]

LOL the main job for a MT is to TANK. If you cant meet DPS checks in any content then you need to look at your DPS's in the group. GET GOOD and GEAR UP if you can't meet the dps checks. If you like to go all out as a tank and try to pull high dps then go for it. If your healer enjoys going crazy with healing then why not but DO NOT try to tell other players how they should gear up. The last time I checked TANKS can only GREED on STR jewelry. Which means the devs made it crystal clear that VIT gear is for tanks GET OVER IT.

Personally I like to mix up my jewelry. I only use str jewelry that has skill speed the rest will be vit based. That's my preference if you have a problem with that oh well that is not my problem.

[Tsurayu]

While I agree that it is nice for tanks that are comfortable with their skill level, to use Strength-based accessories, the important detail is just that - comfort. The more I read this thread the more it starts to turn into a "use strength accessories or you suck". I hate that attitude.

At the end of the day, tanks are meant to tank, you can't tell tanks out there that they suck, or are playing the game wrong, when in truth, they are playing correctly by being a VIT build tank. Can you make a suggestion that they can be a better tank if they learn to balance STR and VIT builds for maximum efficiency? Sure. In fact, I sometimes suggest it to my tank friends that believe full VIT is the way to go, but do I ever try to make them or tell them they suck at their job if they run full VIT? No.

[Sleigh]

LOL the main job for a MT is to TANK. If you cant meet DPS checks in any content then you need to look at your DPS's in the group. GET GOOD and GEAR UP if you can't meet the dps checks. If you like to go all out as a tank and try to pull high dps then go for it. If your healer enjoys going crazy with healing then why not but DO NOT try to tell other players how they should gear up. The last time I checked TANKS can only GREED on STR jewelry. Which means the devs made it crystal clear that VIT gear is for tanks GET OVER IT.

Personally I like to mix up my jewelry. I only use str jewelry that has skill speed the rest will be vit based. That's my preference if you have a problem with that oh well that is not my problem.

That's not really how they design raids, these days. They take into account good DPS from tanks when designing the harder enrages like A3S and A4S, so unless you want to wait until you overgear a fight dramatically you need your tanks putting out good damage right now.

So no, it's not about DPS getting good. Everyone has to do their parts in FFXIV if you're trying to do well, even healers and tanks. Fun fact, even in full i210 if healers didn't DPS much and tanks did sub-par DPS, A4S would more or less be unclearable, it's tuned for healthy amounts of both.

[Lucke]

The day I hang up my VIT gear for STR is the day DPS hang up their STR/DEX for VIT so that they can survive more than 2 AoEs.

[Blitzace]

The day I hang up my VIT gear for STR is the day DPS hang up their STR/DEX for VIT so that they can survive more than 2 AoEs.

Sir. take my like.
If your group doesn't meet the DPS check, Its DPS fault not cause the tank has one to many VIT accessory's equiped. Can a tank lot on STR gear in dungeons ? Nope, this annoyed me when i leveled my tank as i always keep em mixed or full str most of the time. But yeah, You want DPS? Look at your DPS not at the tank. Specially when you force someone the way YOU want to play, You know what? play the class yourself then.

[karateorangutang]

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Ok I get that everyone should be doing their job. I guess what I don't quite understand is the mentality where if I am doing my job and only my job then I get an A+. If you can tank effectively and do a little bit of DPS to boot then why is that such a bad thing? Why should we settle for mediocrity when we can be truly great? Anyone can hold hate, stay alive, and tank well in this game with a little bit of practice. What is so wrong with wanting to take our game to the next level?

The argument isn't that its necessary, because it isn't, but that we have the opportunity and capacity to become even more than just a tank. Just as healers can do the same and DPS can step up and buff their parties. A DRG has no need to use battle litany to improve the parties crit, BLM's have no need to use Apocatastasis to help the tank, SMN's don't need to use ressurection or throw a Physick on a party member in a pinch, and MNK's certainly don't have to use Mantra at critical times to aid the healer, but they are praised for doing these things. Tank's seem to be the only class where if you are competent and doing DPS while staying survivable and holding hate that they are still sometimes ridiculed for not being "tankey" enough.

Why?