Idea: Split Archer into Bard and Ranger

[DestinovaTrueblade]

Why do people see branching jobs as a bad thing? I'm pretty sure for jobs with the same role it can works actually pretty well, just see them as if were another spec. How can people say that branching jobs will play the same? Do you know that going on we will get only jobs skills? if you play this game with a decent knowledge of the job you know how much a class can change with just 5 jobs skills. For me Ranger and Thief must be in this game, they are iconic jobs and will add variety. I dont understand why, instead of trying to get a better game, people answer with "no"

I don't claim to be a game designer or anything, but a bloated roster of specs/classes/jobs =\= better game because the longer that roster, the harder it is to balance the game without homogenizing the spcs/classes/jobs.
So it's better to be selective on what is actually added to the game and IMO Rogues and Archer already represented Ranger and Thief adequetly, I'd rather see something currently absent like Samurai or Red Mage.

[Noelzzz]

Rogues and Archer already represented Ranger and Thief adequetly, I'd rather see something currently absent like Samurai or Red Mage.

Represent Ranger and Thief, yes, you can't play Rogue and Archer in endgame anyway. I agree with you with the priority to add something currently absent though, but that doesn't they could "fix" it someday.

[Dererk]

Why do people see branching jobs as a bad thing? I'm pretty sure for jobs with the same role it can works actually pretty well, just see them as if were another spec. How can people say that branching jobs will play the same? Do you know that going on we will get only jobs skills? if you play this game with a decent knowledge of the job you know how much a class can change with just 5 jobs skills. For me Ranger and Thief must be in this game, they are iconic jobs and will add variety. I dont understand why, instead of trying to get a better game, people answer with "no"

Why do 2 dps jobs need to brach off 1 class? And yes brd is a dps but it has support capability's. But it's still a dps the brd in my static is good real good. Maybe if they made a support role a real one could see this happening but then you can't buff one with out buffing the other and SE has made that clear multiple times as well as adding a real support role to the set up in party's. (you know duty finder limitations ya its true.)

Also I find it funny with MCH people said they wanted a magic gunner well they got a gunner with a cast bar lol.

I don't understand where you're coming from. You're comparing Ranger to BRD, and saying we won't need it because casters will have to compete with the spot? All DPS are competing against all similar DPS for those slots already? How would this mess up the meta? Ninja didn't mess up the meta when it was introduced because of TP generation/taking a melee DPS slot.

Ninja also brings a slashing resistance down de buff to the party and monk dragon kick adds a intelligence and a blunt resistance down debuff. And with DRK and delirium that gives an intelligence down debuff but since it doesn't add a blunt down dragon kick overwrites delirium. And if you have a DRK and PLD tank set up for end game ninja would be more useful than mnk in these set ups.

[Sessurea]

not happening. NEXT!

[AskaRay]

They would've done this already if they were gonna do it at all, it's more obvious a choice than "arcanist > Summoner/Scholar" so I'm pretty sure they didn't split archer on purpose.

[LordPhantomhive]

I think if brd's abilities like straighter shot and bloodletter proc'd more, or could be forced more like mch the casting wouldn't be so bothersome. Mch has the luxury or loading/ reload for combo damage and no casting. Also has an auto attack depending on turret. Brd needs something to ease the pain of that castbar.

[rappa]

Wanderer's Minuet isn't going anywhere

I stopped to read here. I could use "git gud", "learn 2 play", "go to smn op" but i'll try to post something relevant.

WM brings more dps. i prefer lose my mobility and earn 30% damage than move like a headless chicken or my ass is on fire.

Bard now is useful in good hands and a disaster in "smashing button" players. Our cast time is 1'40 and 1'50. It's unusual any aoe i can't cast and avoid after the execution. If i can't cast i will have bloodletter, sidewinder, flaming arrow, any oGCD to buff me or last resort, "feint".

I will rant if "feint" has castime.

[Xerius]

WM brings more dps. i prefer lose my mobility and earn 30% damage than move like a headless chicken or my ass is on fire.

It's a matter of how the job is played not DPS. A lot of people are upset that they're favorite job is all of the sudden played completely differently. Many people aren't disappointed by BRDs lack of DPS but are disappointed by how it feels to play the job now. Of course some people love WM, but many people don't and that's why I think it's only logical that a split occurs so people that loved the job before can play in a style similar to their favorite and people that love WM can still play BRD in it's current state.

[o3o]

This will most likely never happen.

A pure dps ranged dps will never compete for a spot with bard/mch. Having them share gear will just be a pain for the 2 jobs and on top of that unless ranger has incredible TP regeneration to compete with caster aoe dps I don't see it replacing casters either.

The resistance your getting from the community is also another big reason this will never happen. Half the posts in this thread are just simply... no.

So yeah... no.

[Xerius]

The resistance your getting from the community is also another big reason this will never happen. Half the posts in this thread are just simply... no.

So yeah... no.

Using this logic the other half of the responses are 'yes.'

So, uh... yes!