Idea: Split Archer into Bard and Ranger

[RiceisNice]

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The act of using mudra itself is a mechanic that's unique to ninja. Are you trying to say that using huton is the same as using heavy thrust?

They are EX thieves, which are still thieves by concept regardless of what they are called now. You have skills that are core to what a thief would have, down to ones like mug and hide. Hell, your rogue quests downright having you steal stuff anyway.

I'm calling it a side job because we're discussing it being implemented as a branching side job to rogue.

You're right that they need to reuse some mechanics, that's why I'd rather them focus on making new jobs that give them a new slate to work with, rather than trying to smack in branching side jobs that comes with it's own exclusive problems. Thief in concept is so already close to what rogue is (and story line wise, a rogue is basically a thief with good publicity) and trying to force it into a branching side job is just that; forcing it. There's still other ideas that have yet to be used; a melee dps that works with frontal positional, stationary melee dps, spitfire/spell blade, the list goes on. These are the sort of concepts that would require all of the abilities to give it its own identity, not just slapping on 10 skills.