Chimera Trial?

[Risvertasashi]

Reminds me that I need to deal with training up my Chocobo. But should I not train it as a tank?

I would actually go with the healer tree first. While not strong, the choco's heals give you far more endurance in fates, quests, etc than anything else.

[RiversideGuy]

Assume on can change between heals & tank easily (need to read up on leveling up my bird, there seem to be a lot of FATEs that I'm going to have to solo coming up)? I did the unlock for my bird, but I'm at square one...

Not sure about unlocking raids... right now I gotta do Garuda H to unlock Titan to continue on the MSQ line.

I gotta assume I need the current relic to upgrade to whatever new one happens in 3.1... unless y'all say otherwise.

What I read was I need 3k Allied Seals to buy something else that can make the carbontwine... seemed like THAT would take way too long.

[Culfinrandir]

You'll get there! Here's some hints:

Chocobo - there's a thread on the forums advising how to best level up with the points given to lvl 10. This makes a powerful all rounder bird to build from.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...nd-You-A-Guide

Chimera - once you unlock it people will join via duty roulettes and it will be completed in around 90s. Lots of Heavensward players will end up with you and the mechanics are easily cheesed now.

Relic Weapon - we don't know what will happen in 3.1 when Relic2 is released but they said you don't need the first Relic to get the new one. There may be a (very) small advantage to having a Zeta but TBH, don't bust a gut getting one. I haven't.

Hope that helps!

[RiversideGuy]

Ah, I see... from what I can glean, 3.1 may drop within the month. Looking over the relic chain, it SEEMS by that time, my current weapon will still be a higher level than the relic, so if it is NOT needed to go after the 3.1 relic weapon, maybe yes, not something to fret over.

Good thread there... I would have thought tanking would be preferred as I play a BLM, but I do see wisdom is going hybrid dps/healz (I read he/she does not make a very good tank)... and maybe letting him/her choose what is appropriate for the situation. I AM regularly going for beast tribe rep (poetics & mount) so that may be a good place to have him/her fight with me to gain those SPs I need to fill the talent tree.

Now I seem still confused about the food for the bird and the whole issue of stabling. I caught that one can NOT summon the bird for riding or combat if it is stabled... so do I have to go "unstable" the bird every day, then stable it when I am done for the day? AND why even do that... i.e. I have yet to read there is some specific benefit to stabling.

Next the food. Got a supply of the greens, can buy em from a vendor, cool. Advice I have gotten says to feed him Krakka Roots up to several times a day, and feed it Curiel Root when he/she is out and helping me. Except, far as I can tell, no vendor sells these items. Have yet to look at the MB, but somehow I think those may be priced way, way too high (back a ways I need an egg for one of the MSQs and on the MB my choice was buy 99 for 22k Gil or 2 for 17k, vendor sold it for 5). And I DID come across some indicating the yield from farming was very, very low. AND I see that seeds come from botanist cross breeding other seeds... hmmm, jus came across something saying they can be bought w/Allied Seals (did some hints when I unlocked it, but kinda stopped because the return didn't seem worth it so I concentrated on company seals for ranking and got a company weapon for a while).

[Culfinrandir]

You have to grow roots yourself or via an FC. They can be purchased from the marketboard too by people selling excess. As for feeding in the field - don't bother. If you're not going to have your bird fed every hour then don't bother stabling it. You don't need to ever stable it if you don't want to!

A good FC will have a stable, garden & feeding regime that you may want to investigate. =3

I followed the guide and got a well balanced bird that I used on a lot of content and it is good at fighting and healing if needed. You can level up to 20 eventually which will allow you to be at 10 for all three traits.

[RiversideGuy]

I looked at MB prices, yikes, WAY too much! Yes I will explore my FC regarding stables and gardening.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I read that by stabling and feeding the bird Krakka, he gets "trained" which means he gets xp... meaning leveling up to get SP. Realistically, I'll bring him out for running beast dailies and eventually FATEs I need to solo as some of those can be very tough (as a solo!). My understanding is that one can "train" a stabled bird once per hour... obviously as long as you have the Krakka roots. Anyone have an idea of the numbers involved... as in how much exp per hour "trained" at a stable?

[Culfinrandir]

Yes, krakka in the stable and completion of the Challenge Log are the only real viable ways to level up a bird. For example, a level 60 monster in Azys Lla will give 405xp to the bird but you may need 3 million exp per level. That's almost 7.5k kills! When you get circa 400k for the log & 17k per krakka (per hour) you can see why people just leave their birds in the stable & only bring it out for an hour or so per week to kill 100 beasts for the log!

[RiversideGuy]

Boy, very different numbers than what I'm seeing with a rank 2 bird. Training seems to yield about 700 xp, I can get that in 2+ mins of grinding mobs. Krakka's seems to be going for around 1200 EACH. Unfortunately, my FC used to have a garden, but eliminated it because nobody apparently used it. Maybe part of my issue is I'm so used to the monetary/gold system from the "other" MMO... where being frugal let's me pop for expensive items that only occur very, very rarely. 120k (99 toots) for someone with 5-7 million gil is a drop in the bucket, not so much for me. I suspect I'll need lots of it when I set about to level some crafts!

W/o a FC garden is there any way to grow?

Gotta check out the Challenge log... for now I'll use my guy on the beast dailies and see how much help he is on the FATEs I have to solo.

[Niwashi]

My understanding is that one can "train" a stabled bird once per hour... obviously as long as you have the Krakka roots.

You can train a bird once per hour at the stable, but the only reason for leaving him stabled in between training is if it's an FC house where other members of your FC will also train him when you're not there to do so. If it's a personal house, just go to the stable, stable him, train him, and withdraw him. There's no need to leave him there in between training sessions.

[Nutz]

BIRDS:

For birds, training is silly until about level 5 or so. I mean, exp is exp if you have the gil to buy the roots, but the exp gained is a percentage (which is why you're seeing such low numbers at rank 2). I believe in a clean stable (dirty yields less) you'll get 1% of your level each time you train your chocobo. This becomes a massive amount eventually, but at low levels it's not really worthwhile.

The challenge log works similarly. There are 2 challenges: kill 25 enemies within 10 levels of yourself (works while level sync'd) and kill 100 enemies (same conditions). Those yield 5% and 10% exp respectively (which with my rank 15 bird is like 300k or so).

When you stable a bird you can train him immediately and a 1 hour counter starts. Your chocobo doesn't have to be stabled for that hour, however, in addition to you training your chocobo every hour, up to 1 other FC member can also train your bird (which they might actually do depending on the circumstances -- there is an achievement with a barding reward for training someone else's chocobo 25 times).

Healer chocobos are pretty much the best unless you yourself are a healer (even then they might be). I would train him that way at least until he gets choco-cure, which is surprisingly late. After that you can mix it up however you like with the knowledge that eventually you can acquire every single ability (it gets crazy -- my chocobo actually has more HP than I do).

RELIC:

Unless you really like the look of your relic weapon I wouldn't bother. Even then, maybe just go as far as the base weapon. With the next patch there will be a new 'relic' type weapon that doesn't require the previous one at all. There is a possibility that having a completed one will give you a head start, but unless you plan on playing absolutely nonstop between now and then you won't have a completed one -- it's a huge hassle. As others have said, for Chimera and Hydra you need to visit the location (just like a dungeon) and then it will be added to the DF. Definitely go to the trouble of working through hard mode primals and the Manderville side quests (I forget where they start) as they will all be necessary to unlock the excellent duty roulette: trials. These are almost all very short and easy and give a very decent reward daily (exp + poetics I think while under 60, law and esoterics at 60).

If funds allow you can currently buy higher level gear on the market board even though you can't directly access Heavensward content yet. A lot of it should be modestly priced (I think -- haven't checked) because quests in Heavensward award players with a bevy of HQ equipment. If you can't afford HQ but NQ would still be an upgrade that's almost certainly dirt cheap. As a rule in this game NQ gear is 'useless' and often sells at a loss. For any instanced content at 50 your item level cap is 135 unless explicitly stated (so if you're under that you could still take advantage of improvements -- in the field obviously it will always help).