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  1. #1
    Player
    BroodingFicus's Avatar
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    Selahdis Gharl
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 80
    The vengeful healer in me admits to playing chicken with health bars when people don't dodge or tanks refuse to use cool downs. You can't heal stupid but you sure can /not/ heal it. I find that works a lot better. I also admit to getting so fed up with people that they mysteriously died and were left dead on the floor of the last boss as a farewell present for standing in every red circle they could find or getting nasty with my tank. Nobody puts my tin can in a corner.

    Meanwhile the clumsy part of me totally owns up to getting frisky with the cleric stance button and occasionally causing a near death, casting benediction on myself by accident, forgetting to lock my bar and removing Cure II /AND/ Medica II mid boss, dropping my mouse mid boss and trying to quickly recover without it only to walk right off the edge of Titan hard as well as numerous other offenses that no one probably noticed but that left me doing that cat thing where you try to walk it off with dignity. Yep. Totally on purpose folks.
    (4)
    "Speak softly, and carry a big stick." -Healers motto brought to you by President Theodore Roosevelt

  2. #2
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    MXMoondoggie's Avatar
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    Pikarin Makai
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    Twintania
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 90
    I've on more than one occasion let the other Healer stay on the floor if they are annoying. Especially if it's something I could easily solo heal like Chrysalis for random trial roulette. Had this guy once who died from taking too many of the same orbs there and after that he kept bugging me for a res in chat so I just ignored him for the rest of the fight. Dying from something that is your own fault and then being like "Res...Res healer wtf? Bro res me!" is a quick way to make me hate you.

    Also lately people on the second boss of Fractal are getting on my nerves. Normally I should be able to be in cleric stance for almost the whole fight but people keep refusing to dodge it's club attacks including melee dps who take like 50% HP damage from it's 360 attack so I have to actually give them a heal before it goes on a charging rampage. Just why? You'll lose like maybe a single attack if you dodge that. It's like now people just expect the Healer to top them up through it instead. I've just "forgot" to heal them a couple of times when that happens even wiped the party to make a point. They'll probably just kick me but whatever It'll take me all of 5 minutes to find a new party.
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    Last edited by MXMoondoggie; 09-01-2015 at 08:17 PM.

  3. #3
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    nexas506's Avatar
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    Nexas Uthenera
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 61
    Quote Originally Posted by BlueMageQuina View Post
    It happened today at the second set of mobs in the Fractal Continuum. So I'm laying on the floor, healing/DPSing as WHM, when suddenly my puppy runs over chasing the older dog. She steps on the keyboard and completely turns off the HUD. Literally nothing is on the screen. I'm scrambling, pressing every button to try to turn it back on and heal. I can't type to tell my party to wait and they move on to the third set of mobs while I'm casting random spells and pressing random macros. I had to reset the PS4 to turn it back on because nothing was working. Needless to say, I was kicked by the time I loaded the game.
    I cant remember exactly, but its either "L1 or L2 + touch pad " to toggle it on and off
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    Neophyte's Avatar
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    Mim Silmaril
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    Phoenix
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by nexas506 View Post
    I cant remember exactly, but its either "L1 or L2 + touch pad " to toggle it on and off
    It's the "Scroll lock"-button on keyboards by standard.
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  5. #5
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    BlueMageQuina's Avatar
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    Daddy Curaga
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    Coeurl
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by nexas506 View Post
    I cant remember exactly, but its either "L1 or L2 + touch pad " to toggle it on and off
    Quote Originally Posted by Neophyte View Post
    It's the "Scroll lock"-button on keyboards by standard.
    Thank you both
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  6. #6
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    Its_Elodie's Avatar
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    Final Heaven
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    Lamia
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Neophyte View Post
    Since you will never compensate a real DPS you're just causing loss of raid-dps. /shrug
    Healer dps is futile if on cost of DPS dps.
    Did I ever say I was going to leave them lay there the entire time while I try and fulfill their role? No. What I said was:

    Quote Originally Posted by Its_Elodie View Post
    If you repeatedly stand in avoidable aoe or stupidly stand with the tank getting cleaved in the face, I might let your health get really low to scare you into correcting the situation, or if it continues, let you die. I hate wasting my mana when I could be getting dps in.
    I never said I would leave them there FOREVER. Part of the group's damage could already be lost because I likely couldn't maintain a tank and the large amount of damage the dps might be taking at the same time. It can happen, it depends on the situation. If I ask people to move because its in their best interests that they should and they don't, I might just let them die once to try to get them to learn from glaringly obvious mistakes because I know my limits as a healer. In Alex NM I had a blm in a group on the 3rd floor who stood where the tanks were sharing the damage of the hands and after three cleaves, three deaths, and three people telling him to not stand with the tanks he finally listened to us and moved behind them and stood with us. Do you know how annoying that is? Do I get tired of it? Yes. Do I hesitate sometimes because I get tired of wasting my mana and I think it could cause a group wipe if I stop healing the tank to slow rez a dps AGAIN so they can hopefully learn this time from what they did? Yes. Does that make me a bad healer? No. If you think it does then we can agree to disagree.

    As far as avoidable AOE goes, avoidable AOE is just that, avoidable. I'll heal people if they accidentally miss a telegraph or forget to dodge. When I heal and dps want to pull the lazy card in a raid/dungeon do you think its fair to anyone that I might have to sacrifice the group as well as that last thing on my laundry list of priorities, my own possible contribution of dps FOR them so they can keep waving that lazy card? I had two bards who wanted to stay in WM in Fractal Continuum during the first AND second bosses and ate Every. Single. Aoe. I used most of my stacks of emergency heals between the two of them each time they were up because they just didn't want to dodge. Meanwhile, I've got a tank in offensive stance to help dps on the boss who takes a damage spike and goes down to 1000hp and then I've got spit insta-casts to heal him with quickly because I used all of my stacks on the bards. It could've been a wipe a few times, but thankfully it wasn't. Despite them NOT dodging avoidable aoe to allow for more of their own dps it was still a 30-35 minute run, and yes I was in cs on and off during trash pulls and at the beginning of the bosses until I had to start mass healing them. I don't really think I'm the one being selfish in that group if I had to spare a bard to save a tank during the bosses.

    Raids and dungeons are two different things. In 24 mans I had 2 other alliances to help make up for the dead weight in the raid who ignore mechanics over and over again, so no I'm not always going to agree that its more mana efficient over a long haul to rez every single dead dps I see go down. Rezzing multiple people who have proven time and time again that they are dead weight while I have a mt I'm usually healing really isn't going to help me, my mana, or the raid if the tank ends up dying because I happened to run dry, not by a long shot. Fortunately for me, going oom from dps not avoiding the avoidable or ignoring mechanics doesn't affect me in 8 man coil/Alex savage or Bis/Rav Ex because my static is a perfectly capable group and for now, my troll tower days are over.

    You don't have to be captain obvious to know as a healer it would take a LONG time to run a 4 man dungeon with just one dps while the other lays dead. Its in the groups best interests for the healer to try and get them up again when its safe, but if they can't manage to stay up and keep getting cleaved in the face or continue dying to simple mechanics after people have warned them of what they are doing wrong, I might cut my losses and try and make up for their dps loss if I can and its safe *if* the boss is almost dead, then rez them afterwards. If that's not the case and we can't manage to ever beat the boss after many tries of the same, the group obviously isn't going to work and it's time to vote. In story Alex it would be impossible to meet the dps needs for the raid if there's no dps left standing so of course in that circumstance I'll prioritize getting someone up if the tanks are ok and a dps makes a critical mistake there.

    *Sometimes* I get just as fed up as the next healer because its my job in four man and a job shared with another healer in 8/24 man content to cover everyone else and their mistakes, even if they keep making them over and over again. When I try and help people to learn from them on occasion by giving them a minute or two to think about why they might've died so I can type in chat what they did wrong (which most of the time I really don't have the time unless we end up wiping), it's not always out of spite and I don't believe that's a call to turn in my antiquated elements/Nirvana Zeta/Hive Planisphere. With new people its one thing I LOVE teaching new people who are willing to listen, because we all start somewhere. If its old content though and you clearly aren't new (because there's no bonus message) but you still want to be a pain in the @ss blatantly ignoring mechanics and purposely make my life harder, its quite another.

    Or other way round: You'll lose more mana if you let a DPS die instead of healing him. Because you would need to do more than double your original dps to compensate him and tanks might run out of mitigation CDs, respectively get more damage (which results in that you'll have to heal more).
    With grossly lazy dps my mana will most likely be f'd either way. I either lose it by rezzing because I can't keep up healing more than one person besides the tank taking massive damage spikes or continuously healing someone who shouldn't need it. Same with those tanks who don't use cd's. The good ones will and the bad ones won't. If they don't, there goes more mana. If I have some mana left to safely dps in those groups its a bonus. Guess I just have to pick my poison sometimes in doody finder. Most groups are fine, but like my two bard group, it takes a real gem to test my patience.

    You make me out to sound like I'd be some zealot who lets a raid/dungeon group mostly lie on the floor so I can go God mode and try and heal and dps to my hearts content, just to watch the world burn. I can't say I've done that yet. From experience though, dungeons/raids/coil do go more efficiently when everyone does their job to their max proficiencies. That means not standing in boss cleaves if you aren't a tank, avoiding the avoidable so as not to put an unnecessary strain on the healer because when you help them, they can help the group by allowing them to do some dps in addition to that of the dps.

    Quote Originally Posted by Its_Elodie View Post
    If you pull something as dps, I'm going to let you tank it and not heal you unless it was obviously by accident.
    That's not your decision, that the decision of the tank. And if I pull as a DPS with a single attack or even a facepull... it's you who'll have emnity with next heal (or your fairy).
    When I see dps purposely start pulling during a dungeon and I see a new tank being taken advantage of because they aren't being given a chance to learn their role because the dps isn't letting them, it is my decision if the tank decides *NOT* to pick the mob off of them and not heal that dps. If the tank decides to take them off of them, I will heal the tank. I'm generally not for rewarding arrogant behavior like that with newbies and I don't for a longshot think it's okay when dps PURPOSELY do it. When it's intentionally being done, it becomes glaringly obvious and if I'm AST/WHM/SCH, I don't have to encourage that type of behavior to what's usually new players or people new to that job. I didn't care if my fairy dies, I knew I was likely next. It wouldn't have been the first time I've died from someone's stupidity in game. But, guess who the mob might go after when I'm gone if you're still in range? That self-serving DPS attitude of entitlement is deplorable. I'm not saying EVERYONE has it, but I have run into enough that do. Might be why we have 19% tanks/heals in the game and 60% DPS. Tanks get tired of that BS. Healers too. So please at least give people a chance.

    If you're not comfortable with a player initiate a kickvote. But don't let the other two players suffer just because you want to teach a single dumbass a lesson.
    You'll deserve a kick as well for such a behaviour, if it's on purpose.
    I've used the vote kick feature maybe 10 times in two years for AFK's, trolls, and players being harassed. But, I can count on 2 fingers the times I've been kicked in this game in the years I've been playing it. NONE of which were as a healer and both were as dps in premades who were full of very obvious trolls. I'm usually a ray of sunshine in most content unless I've had a bad day just like the next guy, or if someone really tries my patience and it starts wearing thin. So I really don't need the lecture on the validations for being kicked myself, but thank you all the same
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    Last edited by Its_Elodie; 09-02-2015 at 03:51 PM.

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    Yukariko's Avatar
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    Viola Frost'yukari
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 60
    Another confession i forgot

    me and a healer friend ran ST together and a black mage in our party died and gave the comment "not a single heal" well... don't say that to 2 slightly crazy scholars, after that every time the black mage took even the slightest bit of damage we spammed them with heals/sheilds/stoneskins/eye for an eye everything!. until after a while he said "Are you two bots?" ...
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  8. #8
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    shaijis's Avatar
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    FIN
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    Ara Kirani
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    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 70
    I'm so used to doing expert roulettes with mostly premades that, if the random df party is going too slow, I may pull. And then cry when killing the large pull takes forever and the tank is almost dead most of the time and I can't dps.

    I'm a GOOD HEALER I SWEAR YOUR GEAR JUST SUCKS ;3;
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    OcieKo's Avatar
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    Ociela Koslun
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 90
    How many people read these and think... How many of these did i check off this week?

    MMO Career healer here, since shaman in EQ1 around 2003, safe to say its my best role in any RPG, also good at the mythical unicorn role of FFXIV the OFF-tank, ok at MT But im no CD rotation/enmity super-hero, but i pick up adds damn fast. Suck at dps... Like hard... I do oh shit CDs not its up use its...

    Anywho back on topic, anyone who knows me knows i subscribe to the belief that healers are the greatest PKers (player killers) in any game since they can do it wheter theres pvp content or not. I kill A LOT of dps who think their the person in charge of pulls, side note i do it as a tank too... I tank what i intentionally pull or know patrols into aggro range.
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    Detoh'li Yootz
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 60
    Whenever I run as a healer, I will heal myself multiple times before i realize i forgot to target the tank... no one has died yet but it happens way more than i like to admit
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