Healer Confessions

[Alahra]

I'm that healer that will heal you back to full even if you only took a smidgeon of damage. I have control issues. :/

I do this too, at least with the tank. Depleted health bars bother me. I'm a mediocre WHM because of it, as I often can't wait for Regens to do their work.

[adn]

Was leveling my WHM alt the other day and decided to do leveling roulette, got the Aery.

Everything seemed OK up until the first boss, DPS maybe a little slow on trash mobs but hey that's OK, right...? (wrong!)

The DPS were actually so slow/bad that we used up all of the pillars on the first boss and spent ages killing it. Bear in mind that all of these players had done this instance before, and I have had groups of all new players when HW first came out that killed the boss faster than that.

Needless to say I peaced out. I do not play a healer to hand-hold terrible DPS through content. The grocery store was also closing in 20 minutes and I needed to pick up milk.

[MXMoondoggie]

I'm that healer that will heal you back to full even if you only took a smidgeon of damage. I have control issues. :/

And sometimes in CT I liked to get a little bit aggressive just to see how many adds I could healtank.

Aggressive is the only way I play content I've done before lol. Especially if I get a decent Tank I take that as a sign to go nuts. Had a guy the other day like "This is the first time in ages I needed to keep my combo up on everything to hold threat" So then it's just a challenge for me trying to pull threat off him. I couldn't but it was fun making him work for it XD.

[SerosJourney]

ok,

for this Thread I want to appologize for every death that was caused by the ASTs underpowered being before 3.07!
I always gave my best but sometimes...the best is not enough!!!!

Everytime there is someone dying cause of my own fault, then I suddenly appologize!!! There are some weak moments....oh yes....there are! But I never felt so bad when I knew that it was a fault of mine! Because I realized it and then I've got the opportunity to improve myself!!! But when I knew that I could have made it better, unless my class would lack.....then it's really hard!

[BlueMageQuina]

I cant remember exactly, but its either "L1 or L2 + touch pad " to toggle it on and off

It's the "Scroll lock"-button on keyboards by standard.

Thank you both

[Saseal]

Ran EX roul with two FC mates (one being tank, other being DPS), last night. I told our tank, before queuing, "I'll heal if you give me a challenge to heal."
His reply, being he wasn't as confident on his newly 60'd WAR (mains PLD), was that he'll take his WAR and do big pulls and try his hardest to be a pain in the ass.
When we came out of the roulette, I sat him down at the FC house bar and said,
"THAT WASN'T A CHALLENGE. >=(" *Stamps 'FAIL'* (too good a tank to be bad...?)

The point - I confess.... I was madly hoping for near death experiences that would force me into healing without space to DPS, with a full lvl 60 toolkit lol.... (.....bored of doing the same content, already... can't wait till the new raid).
Maybe I should DF back into WoD just so I can experience the old trauma of healing terribads...

[Erim-Nelhah]

I met a tank during a Singularity Reactor run that said he was cooking chicken.

Was his name Leeroy Jenkins?

--Erim Nelhah

[CyrilLucifer]

Maybe I should DF back into WoD just so I can experience the old trauma of healing terribads...

I actually do this. Sycrus Tower is easy enough now that you can get by without trouble, but some WoD runs are ugly; I like that, it can be very challenging.

[Saseal]

Went into T9 with 5 FC mates, earlier, solo healing. At the golems phase, I'm running around healing whomever needed, etc and I notice a meteor still sitting on the ground.
Me, on Mumble: "There's another one still - over here" *Starts jumping around towards the boulder to gain the attention of and lead the nearest person with a golem to it.... jumps one too many times and comes 1/3 of a millimeter to the wall of death, regardless the attempts to change direction in mid-jump* "O_O SHhhhhiiiii-.............Oh gad I almost jumped into the wall... >.>;"
Everyone else: Wat.

Needless to say, I continued that behavior anyway, and will probably continue to do that.

It's all fun and games till a group's only healer breaks itself on a flaming death wall of insta-kill.

[Its_Elodie]

Since you will never compensate a real DPS you're just causing loss of raid-dps. /shrug
Healer dps is futile if on cost of DPS dps.

Did I ever say I was going to leave them lay there the entire time while I try and fulfill their role? No. What I said was:

If you repeatedly stand in avoidable aoe or stupidly stand with the tank getting cleaved in the face, I might let your health get really low to scare you into correcting the situation, or if it continues, let you die. I hate wasting my mana when I could be getting dps in.

I never said I would leave them there FOREVER. Part of the group's damage could already be lost because I likely couldn't maintain a tank and the large amount of damage the dps might be taking at the same time. It can happen, it depends on the situation. If I ask people to move because its in their best interests that they should and they don't, I might just let them die once to try to get them to learn from glaringly obvious mistakes because I know my limits as a healer. In Alex NM I had a blm in a group on the 3rd floor who stood where the tanks were sharing the damage of the hands and after three cleaves, three deaths, and three people telling him to not stand with the tanks he finally listened to us and moved behind them and stood with us. Do you know how annoying that is? Do I get tired of it? Yes. Do I hesitate sometimes because I get tired of wasting my mana and I think it could cause a group wipe if I stop healing the tank to slow rez a dps AGAIN so they can hopefully learn this time from what they did? Yes. Does that make me a bad healer? No. If you think it does then we can agree to disagree.

As far as avoidable AOE goes, avoidable AOE is just that, avoidable. I'll heal people if they accidentally miss a telegraph or forget to dodge. When I heal and dps want to pull the lazy card in a raid/dungeon do you think its fair to anyone that I might have to sacrifice the group as well as that last thing on my laundry list of priorities, my own possible contribution of dps FOR them so they can keep waving that lazy card? I had two bards who wanted to stay in WM in Fractal Continuum during the first AND second bosses and ate Every. Single. Aoe. I used most of my stacks of emergency heals between the two of them each time they were up because they just didn't want to dodge. Meanwhile, I've got a tank in offensive stance to help dps on the boss who takes a damage spike and goes down to 1000hp and then I've got spit insta-casts to heal him with quickly because I used all of my stacks on the bards. It could've been a wipe a few times, but thankfully it wasn't. Despite them NOT dodging avoidable aoe to allow for more of their own dps it was still a 30-35 minute run, and yes I was in cs on and off during trash pulls and at the beginning of the bosses until I had to start mass healing them. I don't really think I'm the one being selfish in that group if I had to spare a bard to save a tank during the bosses.

Raids and dungeons are two different things. In 24 mans I had 2 other alliances to help make up for the dead weight in the raid who ignore mechanics over and over again, so no I'm not always going to agree that its more mana efficient over a long haul to rez every single dead dps I see go down. Rezzing multiple people who have proven time and time again that they are dead weight while I have a mt I'm usually healing really isn't going to help me, my mana, or the raid if the tank ends up dying because I happened to run dry, not by a long shot. Fortunately for me, going oom from dps not avoiding the avoidable or ignoring mechanics doesn't affect me in 8 man coil/Alex savage or Bis/Rav Ex because my static is a perfectly capable group and for now, my troll tower days are over.

You don't have to be captain obvious to know as a healer it would take a LONG time to run a 4 man dungeon with just one dps while the other lays dead. Its in the groups best interests for the healer to try and get them up again when its safe, but if they can't manage to stay up and keep getting cleaved in the face or continue dying to simple mechanics after people have warned them of what they are doing wrong, I might cut my losses and try and make up for their dps loss if I can and its safe *if* the boss is almost dead, then rez them afterwards. If that's not the case and we can't manage to ever beat the boss after many tries of the same, the group obviously isn't going to work and it's time to vote. In story Alex it would be impossible to meet the dps needs for the raid if there's no dps left standing so of course in that circumstance I'll prioritize getting someone up if the tanks are ok and a dps makes a critical mistake there.

*Sometimes* I get just as fed up as the next healer because its my job in four man and a job shared with another healer in 8/24 man content to cover everyone else and their mistakes, even if they keep making them over and over again. When I try and help people to learn from them on occasion by giving them a minute or two to think about why they might've died so I can type in chat what they did wrong (which most of the time I really don't have the time unless we end up wiping), it's not always out of spite and I don't believe that's a call to turn in my antiquated elements/Nirvana Zeta/Hive Planisphere. With new people its one thing I LOVE teaching new people who are willing to listen, because we all start somewhere. If its old content though and you clearly aren't new (because there's no bonus message) but you still want to be a pain in the @ss blatantly ignoring mechanics and purposely make my life harder, its quite another.

Or other way round: You'll lose more mana if you let a DPS die instead of healing him. Because you would need to do more than double your original dps to compensate him and tanks might run out of mitigation CDs, respectively get more damage (which results in that you'll have to heal more).

With grossly lazy dps my mana will most likely be f'd either way. I either lose it by rezzing because I can't keep up healing more than one person besides the tank taking massive damage spikes or continuously healing someone who shouldn't need it. Same with those tanks who don't use cd's. The good ones will and the bad ones won't. If they don't, there goes more mana. If I have some mana left to safely dps in those groups its a bonus. Guess I just have to pick my poison sometimes in doody finder. Most groups are fine, but like my two bard group, it takes a real gem to test my patience.

You make me out to sound like I'd be some zealot who lets a raid/dungeon group mostly lie on the floor so I can go God mode and try and heal and dps to my hearts content, just to watch the world burn. I can't say I've done that yet. From experience though, dungeons/raids/coil do go more efficiently when everyone does their job to their max proficiencies. That means not standing in boss cleaves if you aren't a tank, avoiding the avoidable so as not to put an unnecessary strain on the healer because when you help them, they can help the group by allowing them to do some dps in addition to that of the dps.

If you pull something as dps, I'm going to let you tank it and not heal you unless it was obviously by accident.

That's not your decision, that the decision of the tank. And if I pull as a DPS with a single attack or even a facepull... it's you who'll have emnity with next heal (or your fairy).

When I see dps purposely start pulling during a dungeon and I see a new tank being taken advantage of because they aren't being given a chance to learn their role because the dps isn't letting them, it is my decision if the tank decides *NOT* to pick the mob off of them and not heal that dps. If the tank decides to take them off of them, I will heal the tank. I'm generally not for rewarding arrogant behavior like that with newbies and I don't for a longshot think it's okay when dps PURPOSELY do it. When it's intentionally being done, it becomes glaringly obvious and if I'm AST/WHM/SCH, I don't have to encourage that type of behavior to what's usually new players or people new to that job. I didn't care if my fairy dies, I knew I was likely next. It wouldn't have been the first time I've died from someone's stupidity in game. But, guess who the mob might go after when I'm gone if you're still in range? That self-serving DPS attitude of entitlement is deplorable. I'm not saying EVERYONE has it, but I have run into enough that do. Might be why we have 19% tanks/heals in the game and 60% DPS. Tanks get tired of that BS. Healers too. So please at least give people a chance.

If you're not comfortable with a player initiate a kickvote. But don't let the other two players suffer just because you want to teach a single dumbass a lesson.
You'll deserve a kick as well for such a behaviour, if it's on purpose.

I've used the vote kick feature maybe 10 times in two years for AFK's, trolls, and players being harassed. But, I can count on 2 fingers the times I've been kicked in this game in the years I've been playing it. NONE of which were as a healer and both were as dps in premades who were full of very obvious trolls. I'm usually a ray of sunshine in most content unless I've had a bad day just like the next guy, or if someone really tries my patience and it starts wearing thin. So I really don't need the lecture on the validations for being kicked myself, but thank you all the same