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  1. #541
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    bardaboo's Avatar
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    Kochie Monster
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    Cactuar
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    Bard Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Edewen View Post
    So it is a peeve when it happens to you. But you disregard that other people may be peeved by you being lazy?
    Most mechanics in dungeons are rather transparent to figure out on the fly. If you lack confidence in your own ability to do this, there is a wiki for you to prepare yourself. It is not the groups job to educate you. It is a situation you choose for yourself. I am not saying you must research to do dungeons. I am simply saying not to expect others to do the research for you if you are not skilled enough to react to the common mechanics on your own without a walkthrough.
    Um.... if the healer is new... and there's a mechanic like doom that they need to be aware of... you fukkin tell them. So ya know... you don't die. Is your ego so large that you'd rather wipe then take literally LITERALLY 5 seconds to type out an explanation? Enjoy that smug feeling while you're running back to the boss buddy.
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  2. #542
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    Bourne_Endeavor's Avatar
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Cactuar
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Edewen View Post
    So it is a peeve when it happens to you. But you disregard that other people may be peeved by you being lazy?
    Most mechanics in dungeons are rather transparent to figure out on the fly. If you lack confidence in your own ability to do this, there is a wiki for you to prepare yourself. It is not the groups job to educate you. It is a situation you choose for yourself. I am not saying you must research to do dungeons. I am simply saying not to expect others to do the research for you if you are not skilled enough to react to the common mechanics on your own without a walkthrough.
    How was she lazy though? Having read your comment first, I expected the ever tired and true "I don't DPS" argument or something along those lines. Gemina literally needed a two second explanation anyone could have offered, and ultimately did. Not to mention, if the tank can't be bothered to wait for Protect... that isn't the healer's problem.
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  3. #543
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    Spiroglyph's Avatar
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    Soft Boiled
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    Phoenix
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    White Mage Lv 90
    I will flip my sh-shoot in the following situations:

    1) Tank doesn't pull when everyone is very obviously ready for action, with deployed crit adlo + e4e and pre pull swiftcast popped (for shadow flare) AND ABOUT TO DISAPPEAR BECAUSE YOU DECIDED TO WAIT FOR CHRIST TO GIVE YOU SOME KIND OF SIGN

    2) Mass pulling without cooldowns
    2.1) Pulling without cooldowns because you're "saving them for boss"

    3) Single target LITERALLY ANY JOB when tank is mass pulling (seriously, I do not CARE if you're brandishing a spear instead of a staff, there is no excuse to not aoe when the tank is pulling everything from here to china)

    4) Uncooperative SMNs and BRDs, especially in Dun Scaith (and 24 mans in general tbqh). I do not care if you're primarily a DPS, what will your numbers mean if we wipe because I need to focus healing the tank and my HP is below what I need to rez the off healer? Please, learn and USE your toolkit. These days, a good healer isn't judged solely by their healing output but to their overall contribution to the execution of a duty - it should be the same for DPS and tank, even.

    In between all those I admit I spend a significant part of my ptime fishing away my 30 min punishments
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  4. #544
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    CyrilLucifer's Avatar
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    Holy Emmerololth
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    Mateus
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    The longer I have to stay out of Cleric in dungeons the grumpier I get.
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  5. #545
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    Taika's Avatar
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    Purple Rain
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    Sophia
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    Arcanist Lv 32
    I've been running Creator normal for the past couple of days to gear my fresh level 60 jobs. Yesterday I was doing some runs as WHM and in A10 I was paired with a SCH who didn't DPS at all during the trash pulls. I asked them in party chat if they were planning to only heal during the boss fight. No answer. So I decided if they were only planning to heal, and don't even bother talking to me, I'll go full DPS then to try to cut some of their slack. Turned out even with 100% focus on only heals they couldn't keep people up and 2 people, including the MT, ended dying (plus one but it was their own fault eating avoidable AoEs) - they didn't even Adlo the tank before tank busters. Writing this here in confessions because I would have been able to keep those people alive, but just didn't want to carry another person's slack when they didn't even bother replying to me.

    Similar thing happened in A12 too: as WHM again I was paired with an AST who didn't DPS at all, but wasn't able to heal either even during the add phase, so I had to drop my cleric there to heal the tanks so they wouldn't die. I pointed this out to the AST who proceeded to call me a d**k... In this case I ended up healing the party more than the AST who didn't enter Cleric Stance once.

    (At some point of similar runs I just ended up leaving one group and logging out for the whole game for the rest of the day. I guess that's a confession in itself as well.)
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  6. #546
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    Gemina's Avatar
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    Gemina Lunarian
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    Siren
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Taika View Post
    Snip...
    Your post is why I always MH in DF. Doesn't matter if I'm SCH or WHM, I'm taking care of it.
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  7. #547
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    SachiBear's Avatar
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    Love Qoet
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    Coeurl
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    Dancer Lv 70
    Sometimes I like to fluid aura mobs to mess with the dps and tanks. Only sometimes.

    I also give cleric stanced regens to dps that like standing in pretty colors. I tried right?
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  8. #548
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    bounddreamer's Avatar
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    Talya Stormbreaker
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    Lamia
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    Your post is why I always MH in DF. Doesn't matter if I'm SCH or WHM, I'm taking care of it.
    I assume I'm main healer until proven otherwise. I've seen a lot of bad players lately.

    Had a similar situation in A10N with a SCH who was standing around, not dpsing, and someone called him out on it. So I started to dps. Party member said we didn't need heals right then. We get to the boss and the SCH decides to be a jerk, not healing, and the party starts to take damage as I'm dpsing. "Do you need heals now?" he asked snidely. A10 is pretty easy to solo heal, so I tossed out some aoe heals and hots, focused the tank during tank buster, added more dots, and went back to healing, pretty sure before he did another cast.
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  9. #549
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    DuskTS's Avatar
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    Cupid Duskysquirrel
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    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 90
    I'm a WHM main who took unhealthy pleasure in the knowledge that AST was an inefficient healer for raiding in early HW and now bitch and moan that it's been buffed so much.
    I will probably feel the same about the 4.0 healer, if it exists, unless I decide to main it for Stormblood.
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  10. #550
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    bounddreamer's Avatar
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    Talya Stormbreaker
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    Lamia
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    Warrior Lv 70
    In Dun Scaith I did an aoe ewer by accident and didn't even care because I needed mana. I'd forgot I had an aoe royal road waiting and had intended to just throw the ewer on myself.

    Didn't care; got mana.
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